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Alright, here they are. I took a rubber mallet and tapped the axle back in as far as I could with out hitting it too hard, but it is still sticking out at least 1/4".

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Here is the other one.

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Take a look and tell me what you think.

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You don't want 5" feathers with light arrows(yours are considered light).They will become unstable at distance(reason is you can't slow a fast arrow down too fast or it becomes unstable) and your groups will open up.At HIGH speeds and light arrows,less is more.BUT,imo,I like 4" feathers for hunting with fixed blade broadheads.Even 4" feathers will adversely affect your groups at LONG range.



Those axles need some attention,no way should they stick out like that.There are spacers missing,get to your shop and get it fixed.That could be your noise,too much moving around up there and this will also make the bow less accurate.

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+1, and then I think I'd start shooting 425-450 gr arrows to keep that bow from being WRECKED again.

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New strings and work on getting the timing of everything just right. Get as much as you can out of it.

No deer jumps my shots. They never hear it coming. Longer shots forget about it. It's all in getting things to work together. I'd say right now your limbs are fighting each other. All that stuff works best when every thing else is right, not to cover a problem. Don't listen to all that jazz about how timings can't get off.

Ever ride a motor cycle? I had one years ago. The chain strecthed but not evenly so it had a lunge to it which increased the vibrtion and noise. When I replaced the chain the ride was incredibly smoother. I think strings do the same some times.

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Just saw your pictures. You got problems. Fix them and then see above post. Wow you got problems. Someone should be spoken to sternly. Whoever put that together is an idiot.

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I had the limbs replaced once already because I rolled my jeep down a hill three times and the bottom limb was cracked when I checked it. It was under warranty, no big deal. I took it to my pro shop to have the limbs replaced and they were good about it. Got them in three days and installed them. I watched. I remember that when they put that bottom cam back on, the axle seemed to get stuck. [:@] They did something t make the whole slightly larger, but I can't remember what (not a drill). DO you guys think this is what caused the problem?

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That was a problem,but not the problem you are seeing here.They forgot the shims and/or spacers.

Your insurance should have replaced the bow with a new one.Assuming full coverage.;)

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If BOTH axles are like that, I'd be scared to death to shoot that thing. heck, i'd be scared to be within 5 feet of it. Get it to a good shop and have them fix it.

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I do have full coverage. 100% sure, but I didn't claim it, because it didn't look like it was in too bad of shape. Got $7,000 for the Jeep and it wasn't worth $3,000. I paid $3,900 for it and beat the heck out of it.

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No, it's just the bottom one.

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So, do you guys think that the rollover killed my bow? I don't, but it is possible. I didn't want the insurance company to just cut me a check for the used bow and then have to go get a new one. At the time, I didn't have the funds. I thought I was going to get like $3000 for the Jeep and I need every cent to buy a new car, not a new bow. I'll post the pics of the accident for you entertainment.

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I had a bow get hit in a crash,they replaced the bow and let me keep the old one.


Of course the agent is a pro hunter for a BIG bow company.That agents company became my insurance company.;)

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I wish that was the case.

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I actually had it happen 2 years in a row and the second year,the insurance company wasn't as good to me.State Farm(both wrecks were the other person's fault).I told them of the situation and that I was going to get the bow checked out by someone with a shooting machine who had previously had the bow on the machine and knew the specs.I told them I would like to be reembursed for that evaluation and they told me they would not pay if the bow checked out.:eek:So all I had to do was say the bow was junk and they would have had to buy me a new bow.The guy was a friend and only charged me 20 bucks and he told me it was fine but that really pissed me off,especially considering that it usually cost 100 bucks to put a bow on a shooting machine.

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I know exactly which insurance agent you are talking about TFOX;) That was a pretty good coincidence there lol!Ive actually shot turtles in the pond beside his house[:-]
Derek

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He gets his bows through Tracy,but a bit cheaper.:D

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BTW, guys, I had a nock break today when i was shooting at gander mtn. The nock actually broke off and hit me in the face. The arrow (fortunately) was propelled out of the bow safely and straight and no damage was done but god was it scary!!! I knew exactly what happened but it was weird. I was shooting a back tension release so the shot was even mmore of a suprise b/c i got popped in the face, and the bow was a tad bit louder. I check my nocks pretty often but i guess this one wasnt very noticable and had a stress crack in it.

I got freakin LUCKY I wasnt plastered in the face by Bowtech limb[&:]. Could have been my bow we were talking about on here BS.
Derek

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You get yours through Tracy to dont you? i guess that is just what i assumed.
Derek

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I'd say that I have been pretty lucky. I'm taking it to that same proshop because that is where I bought it.

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Yes,I checked with him wednesday and he was awaiting my paperwork for my new bow.Don't know the status on it as of now.

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Black I don't know what the hell the dude at your pro shop is smoking..... but itmust be the good stuff.

Who in their right mind would let a bow go with that kinda space on the axels! Holy crap!

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ok, to get to the first point mentioned in the thread here, I went from a tomkat 60# to a 82nd at 60#.
Both have the MeanV supressor installed. And the tomkat makes spitting like sound where as the 82nd sounds more like a hamer that hits a wooden board.
I'm shooting 400gr arrows with 125gr tips and I left the standard stopper on, I just replaced the rubber with a bowjax model.
At first the 82nd made his typical noise and than I started fiddling with the space between the string and both the rubber stoppers. The best thing do to is ask some bystanders to check the noise, they have a better understanding and judgement then the one shooting the bow.
Since the MeanV hits the string first I left some space, the Bowjax stopper slightly touches the string with a little tension.
I tried shooting with and without the standard stopper but prefer them both on the bow....
My bow isn't all that loud anymore and she's still smokin' fast........

F.

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Alright guys, I'm going into the shop today, but I need to know what to look for when he is doing this, so it gets done right. Sooner than later would be good.

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If it was me I'd get a schematic of how it's supposed to be before going any farther. Then I'd get the parts and a (the right) press and new strings and do it myself. Before you take it apart take pictures and video the disassembly, possibly doing only one end at a time.

If you have to pay someone who has a working one to take pictures of there's. Be best if you can find someone who works on there's.

I have never been in a shop that knew what they should know. Most just sell them and can screw something onto one, some can even put new strings on, sort of.

At the very least find out what is wrong before taking it in. I don't nor have I ever own a BT so I'm no help.

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What do the spacers look like and where do they go? This would be very helpful to know when I go to the shop.

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Who has one that's right? Take a measurement of the didstance between the limbs and post it. Take a good measurement. Blackstick you take one of yours. It could just be the wrong axels. Measurements don't lie. Which is something said time and time again, measure things and right them down for future refrence.

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I don't understand what you want me to measure. The ATA? Be a little more specific.

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I'll measure mine at home and one in the shop. Then compare.

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Spacers are just washers.

I am not sure how that bow is supposed to be setup as far as the spacing but assure you that something is way wrong.It could be as Nodog points out,the wrong axles but you really need to address this immediately.

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Do they go on the outside of the limb or on the inside by the cam? I'm assuming that they go on the inside.

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Never mind. I see one on the inside. I was having a hard time picturing it, but I understand now. There is one spacer on the left side of the cams on both the top top and bottom. There is no spacer on the right side of either one. Before I go telling my pro shop that they might have forgotten spacers on the right side, are we sure that there should be a spacer on the right side of the cams?

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Now if I remember correctly... you are LEFT HANDED correct?

On a RIGHT HANDED 82nd.... there is a single spacer on the RIGHT (roller guard/cable side) of the cams.... its about the size and thickness of a penny... and its black.... one on top one on bottom.... only on right side.

I am assuming (duh) that on a left handed bow, the spacer would be on the LEFT side.... still the cable and roller guard side though. One on top... one on bottom.

I guess it was pointed out that you may have the wrong size axel.... that would be something to take up with your pro shop if they replaced axels for you after you rolled your jeep.

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Yes, unfortunately I am left handed.

Is there a way to tell if the axles are the wrong size? Yes they replaced them, but with the ones that BT sent with the limbs, so if they are the wrong size, then BT screwed up. I doubt that happened. I think that they may have forgotten to put on the E clip and after putting a lot of shots through it, the axle moved out of place. It could be bent now, but I don't know for sure because I don't have a press.

Is it possible that all of this was caused because they forgot to put the E clip on?

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Im fixing to look at my 101st and see what i can see BS. Ill try and measure everything and post up something a little more specific so maybe you can see if there is any damage.

btw, i know for a fact on the GENERAL that if those washers didnt go in EXACTLY like they were taken out, it was wrong. I will look at mine and see what i can find out for you. The 82nd and 101st cant be that different. They are built off of the same principal.
Derek

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Only one inch of difference (Brace Height)! Thanks.