QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

I am going to a drop away after this hunting season becuase the Hostage Pro is a terd. I am looking at the QAD Ultra and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with it on a Marquis. My 2 main concerns are this: 1. I shoot blazers and am concerned they might not clear the containment bar 2. Is there enough vertical and horizontal adjustement? Any help appreciated

SwampCollie -- if your ever in ohio please install this for me HAHAH

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

No experience with one on a Marquis, but mine was nothing but trouble on a PSE. Get a Trophy Taker.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

I have one on mymathews dxt and also shoot blazers, I took my retaining bar off while target shooting and have never put it back on. I have yet to shoot standing on my head and have had no problems without it.

chris

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

1) Yes

2) Yes

If you have a field covered up with geese... or some ponds full of ducks... I'll be there.....;)


I don't know if I've ever put one on a Marquis... several dozen on black ice's and Libertys. Several dozen on various bowtechs. Marquis really isn't any different than any other BT/Diamond.

You'll have plenty of adjustment. You'll likely need the spacer and longer windage screw to have enough for center shot. No big deal.

I shoot twisters and my girlfriend shoots blazers. I don't think I've set one up in the past month that the customer wasn't shooting blazers... I haven't had any issues at all.... zero... none...

I've fixed a few that were set up at home or by other shops (nameless) that had some issues... and I had to put a whop chuey on a rip cord yesterday (I hate a rip cord maybe because I've only ever messed with four or five and it has all been bows set up somewhere else and they have all been jacked up).

Free advice... the Ultra HD is worth the extra money. It is much quieter than the LD. But either way... you'll have clearance.. and if you don't... then you did it wrong!!! :D

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Do these spacers and windage screw already comein the package or willI need to contact QAD?

What areyour thoughts on the LimbDriver? I really like themechanics of it; if it only had full containment. Note: I am using mostly for hunting but am thinking about finding a place to shoot in a hunter class for recreation.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Yes, the spacer and longer screw come in the package. At least on all the Pro-series ones. Its not applicable on the hunter model as the design and body of the thing is totally different.

As to the limbdriver... I've never laid my eyes on one personally. Seen lots of stuff on the net... watched videos... read reviews..... never seen one.

My 3rd party take... I've heard enough good from enough good people to say its probably a keeper. From a hunter standpoint (which is always my standpoint) I prefer full containment. I drag my bow up and down the tree like a wreck anchor... I don't know how secure that long cord is... but again from a third party stance it is a concern to me... long cords... running straight up the center of the bow.... I'd like to put my hands on one and give it the once over. It looks fairly Andy proof though..... and I've been known to stuff shotgun shells backwards into guns in the heat of an early morning flight of teal.....:( I like the fact that on the QAD... the arrow isn't going anywhere.... I tend to lay my bow in my lap when on the stand... I have a hanger for glassing and eating lunch and taking naps.. but when I'm serious I've got the bow in hand in my lap... and I don't need my arrow flopping all over the place.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Swamp: I agree with you 100 percent. The full containment is what draws me to the QAD. I have heard nothing but great things about the LD for people on AT and on here. So basically it between those two. I love your directions on how to tie one in thats why I called you out. It just seems so much smarter and more secure. I just hope I can find someone that can do it like or similar to the way you set it up. Where do you live by the way? I wouldn't be opposed to a drive if I can't find anyone that can set it up properly. You can pm the info for safety reasons if you would like

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

SC, the LD cord is of no obstruction to anything in hunting situations, or just in general. from my experience with it, its durable and pretty much fail proof. just letting you know man. as for hunting situations, i would go with full containment. i use my LD hunting and always have my bow in my lap and its fine but it would be more convenient to have the full containment yes, but a piece of moleskin on the riser and your good to go as far as noise. the arrow flopping around is just something you get used to. you can deal with it, but its nice to not have tto worry about it. just my .02
Derek

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Thats exactly what I was looking for. I'm sure that having your index finger over the arrow isn't that big a deal... heck I still hold the arrow on my QAD even though its contained. I guess thats left over from the old TM Hunter/Gold-Key days.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

^lol!^ i know exactly what your talking about:Dive shot a WB for the last 2 years and i switched to the LD recently and it wasnt hard to adapt to but it is something you have to think about when walking around in the woods or in the stand. the thing i like about the LD more that the other open da's is that the LD's arms lay so flat that you dont really have to use your index finger to hold it on b/c it will just slide right over the arm without getting stuck. my review of it is completely unbiased and i really believe its a good rest. but if your wanting one that you dont have to worry about the arrow moving around, then the LD is definately not for you.
Derek

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

I've used them both and I agree 100% with drockw. I sit in the stand with my bow in my lap and put felt on the riser. As long as I hold the bow level, the arrow will stay on when I draw and that is with the aggressive 82nd. I never walk around with a nocked arrow because I am constantly moving the bow around to dodge branches and an arrow on the string wouldn't be on the riser very long with the limb driver.

The QAD Ultra HD works very well on my 2008 Diamond Marquis, but I could not get it to work on my 82nd, which I use for hunting because I had fletching clearance issues. I know, I know. Swamp Collie is going to tel me that I did not set it up right. Maybe I didn't, but after reading your excellent step by step instruction on how to install it, I was pretty close. Still, I would prefer the limb driver even for hunting, so I'll leave the QAD on the Marquis.

If you want a full containment drop away, check you the APA Ultimate Twister Safari. I'd hate for you to think that the QAD is your only choice for full containment. I used this up until a month ago on my 82nd. IMO, the QAD is better, than the APA, but the limb driver is the best. Remember, that is just my opinion.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

I don't either. You should see me on the way into the stand... I have my bow in the sling and my release in my pocket... I usually have a climber and a bunch of crap I never use with me and a lot of clothes on my back rather than on my body so I don't get over heated. I would liken my silhouette to that of a sherpa fixing to go up Everest with a movie star.... so having an arrow nocked is the least possible thing in my situation...;)

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Great image. I laughed.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

No I am aware of other full containment rest but I just like what the QAD has to offer the best. I have narrowed it down to 3 that I think would work.

Ripcord: My 3rd choice. Like the full containment. Thats about it
LD: Pros -- Attaches to limb so no cable stress. Heard it drops fast but don't think that will matter. Cons: No full containment and I am a cluts sometimes -- hard to be nimbe at 6'3 285 trompin through the woods like sasquatch. I think it will be alright for a tree stand but sceptical about walk and stalk or ground hunting.
QAD: Pros -- Full containment(good for an ogre), LOVE the thumblock idea. Cons: I have heard they are tricky to install on rollerguard bows, I know my fletchings barely get clearance with the Hostage Pro because the cables are so close to centershot.

I have looked at one other rest, the NAP Quicktune 2000 RG. It basically has a ball that attaches to the string that when draws pushes a lever down to raise the rest -- no strings whatsoever. It looks like a good design but I have not heard anything of these rest and it says it is exclusively for mathews bows. I don't see why this wouldn't work on a Marquis though. http://www.newarchery.com/#/product Check it out.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

I think you know what you want out of a rest and have a list of good rests to choose from. Personally, I think you should be choosing between the limb driver and the QAD. IMO the Limb Driver is the right one. You will be shocked by how easy it is to keep your arrow on your riser. A month ago, I asked this same question. I was shooting the APA and wasn't sure that I wanted to go away from full containment. I made my choice to go with the limb driver and am very impressed with how it has performed. The fact is, you are you and I am me. It is highly unlikely that we are looking to use are equipment for the exact same thing. Both are excellent products that I use and you will be happy with either one assuming you get them set up correctly.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

As soon as I finish maximizing my 82nd. I am going to sell my Marquis and buy the new Diamond Iceman and get that Dialed in. BTY, I will be putting a limb driver on it and the QAD will be going with the Marquis.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

GRRRR I hate making big decisions. I hate to get the QAD and not have it work for me but I love it so much.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

It will work on the Marquis, so don't worry about that. Just follow swamp collie's instructions.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

I would love to follow his instructions but I don't have tuning equipment and don't know how to serve string. Something I want to get into eventually if I win the lottery or Obama's plan for CHANGE actually works HAHAHA

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Spread the wealth! What a crock. Take it to a reputable pro shop.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

FSU, im a big bumbling Sasqui as well ((sasqui= my term for a singular sasquatch lol!)so i know your pain lol!!! 6'3" 265. even when walking around with an arrow nocked, all you have to do is keep a finger on the arrow and your problem is solved.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Seriously, the limb driver is great. You will be impressed.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Yeah I am going to call my shop tomm and see if he can tie it in like SC. The only problem is that I don't think I can shoot in there -- i know he doesn't paper tune there.


DOCK: Sasquai--- LMFAO too funny -- this Bud's for you brotha.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Can you even shoot there at all? Even if you can't paper tune, at least shoot it.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Just so long as he can complete the first half of a regular shoe string knot... cross the rabbit ears and tuck one underneath.... he can tie it in like I did. Its not really a true serving knot at all. If he can't tie an overhand knot.. I wouldn't let him touch my bow!

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

you can shoot in like a 5 yard space. But i know he doesn't paper tune. Im not saying its a bad shop. He fixed an idler lean for me that no one else even checked for. My bow has never shot better. I did call another shop that was recommended to me and the guy said he serves the string in instead of using the footballs. He also said the LD's are the easiest tuning rests he has ever seen. So i might try him out since he has a range and i can do more tuning.

Since this seems to be a chat room for us 4 i will ask another question(s).

Anyone heard anything about Proline Bowstrings? It is local and im sure I could get a quick turn around.

SC: Yeah he did that for my nock point -- he put it inside the d-loop and said it provides some downpressure (the arrow sits on top of the knot). Now you know how much I have to learn about tuning: I didn't even know that was called a overhand knot -- i just thought it was half of tying a shoe HAHAH

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

For whatever its worth... I don't paper tune either. Some folks do, some don't. In my opinion there are so many variables involved that I have typically found that its a lot more time and trouble than it is worth and I can arrive at the same result faster by going on to something a bit easier on my shooter and me as a tuner.

Big country is a paper tuning fan. I'm sure he could tell you what his set up is and what he looks for. Its just another brick in his wall though... he doesn't base everything on it.

Other thing I've never been able to figure out with modern compound and release aid shooters is bare shaft tuning... over my head....

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

Don't sell yourself short. If you can install a QAD rest, then you can do anything.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

I agree with you there SC -- not a big fan of paper tuning myself. Just headaches to me.

Black Stick: I am sure I could install it myself -- I have every other rest, but this is new territory for me and I wanna get the timing stuff right so I will most likely get help. I found a shop around here that said he installs them the same way SC does. I am one of those guys that wants to be there to watch how the technician does it cause then I will be able to go home and do it myself (if i had the equipment--which i don't). Thanks for the help guys -- I think I am going to try to QAD but if it just gives me problemsI am gonna go straight to the LD baring they don't come up with some new technology (like a LD with full containment)

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

I would take it to the pro shop, but do it myself because I know that no one cares as much about my setup as me, and I do it right. Like you, I just don't have the tools. Hope santa gives me a Sure Loc Bow Press. Good luck to you.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

FSU, im the same way about seeing stuff done. Especially with minute tuning and what not. I will litterally hang around with my dealer for hours in his shop and watch him work on bows. Thats how i learn best, watching, then doing, and then perfecting.

RE: QAD Ultra Rest on Marquis?
 

If you have a reputable dealer, that is undoubtedly one of the best ways to learn. In fact, that is how I started out three years ago.