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MGH_PA 07-12-2008 11:58 AM

Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
So, I've been out dialing in my 101st (LH). I walk-backed it, and feel centershot is pretty well set. I creep tuned a bit just for kicks and giggles. Once everything was good, I started sighting in. Now I'm using my CJ DN Comp RH model flipped to accomodate my LH bow (in an attempt to save some money). I quickly found that while I had plenty of elevation adjustment, I ran out of right windage adjustment. My arrows are impacting about 1-1.5" to the right, but I have no more adjustment in the sight in that direction. Is there a work-around fix for this (I'm thinking no, but who knows), or should I start looking for a new sight?

TexasBowHunter 07-12-2008 12:17 PM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
Hey Matt, this might sound a little redneck but here goes, could you grind the sight bracket down enough to make up for the 1-1 1/2 and use a little shorter bolt??? Not the kind of stuff that I would normally suggest but it might get you to shooting for a while and save you some cash for the time being. If there is enough stock on the bracket I try to grind it as even as possible. I have had a similar problem with a RH bow and I made a shim to put behind the sight bracket and used longer bolts....Just an idea to get you out of a bind maybe...

MGH_PA 07-12-2008 01:38 PM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
Just went out again today and shot, and it's fixed. I have JUST ENOUGH adjustment. I'm thinking it must have been a mechanics issue before. Got it hitting well at 20 and 30 yds. I'll move to my 40 and 50 yd pins later this week. Texas, thanks for your input, however.

Dubbya 07-13-2008 01:14 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
I had the same issue on my 82nd. It shot well at 20 and 30 and was off at longer distance. Turned out I had to move my rest about a 1/32" and it was fixed.

OHbowhntr 07-13-2008 01:40 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
On MOST modern bows you don't "RUN OUT OF ADJUSTMENT" without something else being wrong. I only say MOST, because I'm sure somewhere out there, there is ONE, but none that I've ever seen.


Hey Matt, this might sound a little redneck but here goes, could you grind the sight bracket down enough to make up for the 1-1 1/2 and use a little shorter bolt???
No that doesn't sound "Redneck," just uninformed. Why use a grinder for a job meant to be done with an ALLEN WRENCH????

MGH_PA 07-13-2008 06:31 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 

ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr

On MOST modern bows you don't "RUN OUT OF ADJUSTMENT" without something else being wrong. I only say MOST, because I'm sure somewhere out there, there is ONE, but none that I've ever seen.


That's what I was thinking, but I can't imagine what. My rest is good, as I already set centershot, but that could even possibly be tweaked some I suppose. I'll see how it hits out at longer distances, and go from there.

bowdaddy1964 07-14-2008 02:35 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
No that doesn't sound "Redneck," just uninformed. Why use a grinder for a job meant to be done with an ALLEN WRENCH????


But if you just used a allen wrench how would you justify having a grinder in your bow shop....HUM?.....I have a lathe in mine and if need be i'll turn down my sight bracket so I can shoot around corners next......... :eek::D:eek::D

bowdaddy1964 07-14-2008 02:38 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
In fact I'll usally chuck up my whole bow in there as soon as I get more than 1 arrow out of the group.

bowdaddy1964 07-14-2008 02:43 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
My head hurts,,,LOL... check your center shot to see if your in line. And then adjudt the rest right or left accordingly

OHbowhntr 07-14-2008 03:44 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 

ORIGINAL: MGH_PA


ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr

On MOST modern bows you don't "RUN OUT OF ADJUSTMENT" without something else being wrong. I only say MOST, because I'm sure somewhere out there, there is ONE, but none that I've ever seen.


That's what I was thinking, but I can't imagine what. My rest is good, as I already set centershot, but that could even possibly be tweaked some I suppose. I'll see how it hits out at longer distances, and go from there.
Matt,
You're centershot may be different than you think. Re-sight the bow in on a 20yd pin, and re-try a walkback tune. If your arrows fall like this " / " move the rest 1/16 or 1/32" to the right, and re-sight the top pin at 20yds again and repeat the walkback. If they fall like this " \ " move the rest to the left, and repeat. The only other possible thing I can think of is that you're correct drawlength is considerable shorter than what you are shooting and you're pulling the string out of alignment which is resulting in poor nock travel, throwing the arrows off of center.

If you can't get enough adjustment, then start moving your rest, until something clicks enough to get ONE pin sighted in, and work from there.

Where the BT guys on this one???????

MGH_PA 07-14-2008 06:54 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 

ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr


ORIGINAL: MGH_PA


ORIGINAL: OHbowhntr

On MOST modern bows you don't "RUN OUT OF ADJUSTMENT" without something else being wrong. I only say MOST, because I'm sure somewhere out there, there is ONE, but none that I've ever seen.


That's what I was thinking, but I can't imagine what. My rest is good, as I already set centershot, but that could even possibly be tweaked some I suppose. I'll see how it hits out at longer distances, and go from there.
Matt,
You're centershot may be different than you think. Re-sight the bow in on a 20yd pin, and re-try a walkback tune. If your arrows fall like this " / " move the rest 1/16 or 1/32" to the right, and re-sight the top pin at 20yds again and repeat the walkback. If they fall like this " \ " move the rest to the left, and repeat. The only other possible thing I can think of is that you're correct drawlength is considerable shorter than what you are shooting and you're pulling the string out of alignment which is resulting in poor nock travel, throwing the arrows off of center.

If you can't get enough adjustment, then start moving your rest, until something clicks enough to get ONE pin sighted in, and work from there.

Where the BT guys on this one???????
That's how I set my centershot (walkback tuning). My arrows were falling /, and I adjusted accordingly. I creeped tuned, and then began sighting in. However, I was out shooting yesterday, and I'm just fine. I realy think it was a canting issue before (I shoot on a slight slope in my yard). I have my 40yd pin pretty dialed in, and will start working on my 50 and see how it goes (no I'm not going to shoot anything in the field at these yardages, but I want to be proficient:D). Thanks guys.

mez 07-15-2008 12:19 PM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
My brother and I both had the same issues with our 82's. We shot RH so was the opposite of what you had.

I set up the center shot with a laser and ended up exactly opposite as you did.Sight out of adjustment and still hitting 2 inches left.Moved my rest to the right and fixed that issue. I haven't tuned the bow yet as was waiting for the string to settle. I'm interested to see how it walk back tunes and broadhead tunes since I had to move the rest just to getthe sight to work. I'm thinking it will be an interesting process.

Rick James 07-15-2008 01:31 PM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
What is your centershot set at?

Dryridge 07-16-2008 07:50 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
I used to see this all the time. Most often when folks hadn't shot in a while. It was likely a form issue. When not on your form the first thing to go is throwing your arm "out" or away from the body....left hits for a Righty and right hits for a Lefty.
ALSO:..Don't always believe a center shot guage. A modern bow is a technical machine and as such they have a mind of thier own....just because a guage says its in center doesn't mean it will be the center throughout the shot sequence! Trust your arrow hits and adjust from there.

My Tuning sequence....Eyeball the centershot, Get it close by using an arrow on the string and line up. Next PAPER TUNE ...and don't tell me you don't have a tuner. You have a cardboard box? You got a tuner. Just cut a hole through two opposing sides and tape a piece of paper over it tight.
Once paper tuned do a walkback and see if your arrows are drifting is they are, adjust accordingly and then go back to the paper and see what happens...You will be suprised at the how perfect the holes now are...and if not make note of the tear. This is "tuned" with your set up, and you are now done.

We can throw all the "rules" of tuning around all we want but every different bow/rest/arrow spine/nocking mechanism/release and form will change things. Therefore, not all the rules apply to all the setups!!!



Ben / PA 07-16-2008 07:36 PM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 

I have my 40yd pin pretty dialed in, and will start working on my 50 and see how it goes
Does that mean you are ready to play?:D

MGH_PA 07-16-2008 10:17 PM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 
Wow, I really need to get in the habit of visiting the forums more (I'm all thrown off on this summer schedule teacher's have to endure:D), I didn't see all these new posts.

RJ, I'll get a measurement for you tomorrow, I'm getting ready to hit the bed.

Ben, you and Rob will both kill me, I'm not to your levels yet:D

Dryridge, thanks. I didn't paper tune it. I may have to try that.

MGH_PA 07-17-2008 09:02 AM

RE: Ran out of sight adjustment.
 

ORIGINAL: Rick James

What is your centershot set at?
Matt, centershot is 13/16" from inside of riser to center of the rest prongs.


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