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Bowtech Guardian Unknown Noise
My 2007 Guardian is making a slight 'tick' sound just as I reach full draw. The sound seems to be coming from the top cam. I removed/re-inserted the cam axle and it is straight and well-lubricated. The string is well worn but waxed.
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Anyone?
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Check that your mod screws are tight...I heard they can loosen up, some guys lock tite the screws.
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PM sent.
Dan |
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The mod screws are tight. The draw module is supposed to be 28.5. It says CP2.5 on it.
Dan, It does seem like the noise occurs as the cable comes in contact with the draw stop screw head. How do I fix this? Kevin |
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Is the serving worn where the string hits the stop? I've seen where this happend and the string would jump the stop.
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the string is probably rolling off the top cam.I have the same thing going on.there are some bushings available at your pro shop tha you can scew into the cam to stop this
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The cable was very worn at the spot it made contact with the draw stop bolt. I added an extra layer of serving to the contacted cable area and the squeak is gone. I will have to get new cables eventaully.
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ORIGINAL: pureadrenaline the string is probably rolling off the top cam.I have the same thing going on.there are some bushings available at your pro shop tha you can scew into the cam to stop this |
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You haven't screwed with the pivot point have you? Screws are not suppose to be tight.
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No. I checked those and left them just barely snug tight. The cable was very worn where it contacted the draw stop so I added about 0.5" of serving and it silenced the noise. The bow is eventually going to a friend and he will need cables/strings before long. It shoots great though.
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Here is what my dealer did on my 08 Guardian yesterday.
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Ive had this problem with a few customers in my shop When you over draw the guardian you will hear that tick noise caused by pulling the cable passed the stops( they roll aroud the edge of those stops) Byscrewing those screws with the Rubber Bushing cut to fit in the threaded holes you will change the Guardian to a 65% letoff.
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ORIGINAL: Lady Forge Ive had this problem with a few customers in my shop When you over draw the guardian you will hear that tick noise caused by pulling the cable passed the stops( they roll aroud the edge of those stops) Byscrewing those screws with the Rubber Bushing cut to fit in the threaded holes you will change the Guardian to a 65% letoff. Lady Forge, is this not better than having the cables roll past the stops? Does your shophave any other alternatives for this problem? |
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My cables were not pulling past the stops. The cables were worn and polished to the point it made a slight slapping noise when it contacted the draw stop. The extra, single layer of serving basically returrned the serving to its original dimension and thus has not affected let off. This would seem more desirable than adding a bushing to the draw stop.
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The extra, single layer of serving basically returrned the serving to its original dimension and thus has not affected let off. |
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I've never seen what makes the Bowtech bows 65% letoff, but I know it isn't by adding a bolt on the back side of the draw module. I talked to Bowtech, and they recommended adding the bolt to the draw module. It has nothing to do with changing the letoff. It only extends and gives more surface area for the cables. Pretty much a little more peace of mind that the cable isn't going to slip past, that is it.
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but I know it isn't by adding a bolt on the back side of the draw module. I talked to Bowtech, and they recommended adding the bolt to the draw module. It has nothing to do with changing the letoff. Between my Husband and I we personnaly own 5 Bowtech Guardians and play with the letoff on them all the time as well as all the Guardians I sell and work on at the bow shop, and I can say personally that I hate shooting my Guardian at 65 % Letoff [:@]I guess I just got spoiled by the 80%. That bushing that you cut to fit and then heat shrink and add to the screw that you screw into the module willretard the rotationof the cam off the cable just a tad enough to change the letoff thus increasing your holding weight, this is the only recommended way by Bowtech to us their Authorized Bowtech Dealer to ajust the letoff onthe Bowtech Guardians. |
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ORIGINAL: Lady Forge but I know it isn't by adding a bolt on the back side of the draw module. I talked to Bowtech, and they recommended adding the bolt to the draw module. It has nothing to do with changing the letoff. Between my Husband and I we personnaly own 5 Bowtech Guardians and play with the letoff on them all the time as well as all the Guardians I sell and work on at the bow shop, and I can say personally that I hate shooting my Guardian at 65 % Letoff [:@]I guess I just got spoiled by the 80%. That bushing that you cut to fit and then heat shrink and add to the screw that you screw into the module willretard the rotationof the cam off the cable just a tad enough to change the letoff thus increasing your holding weight, this is the only recommended way by Bowtech to us their Authorized Bowtech Dealer to ajust the letoff onthe Bowtech Guardians. |
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lifesadrag;
Check your PM's. Deb |
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ORIGINAL: Lady Forge but I know it isn't by adding a bolt on the back side of the draw module. I talked to Bowtech, and they recommended adding the bolt to the draw module. It has nothing to do with changing the letoff. Between my Husband and I we personnaly own 5 Bowtech Guardians and play with the letoff on them all the time as well as all the Guardians I sell and work on at the bow shop, and I can say personally that I hate shooting my Guardian at 65 % Letoff [:@]I guess I just got spoiled by the 80%. That bushing that you cut to fit and then heat shrink and add to the screw that you screw into the module willretard the rotationof the cam off the cable just a tad enough to change the letoff thus increasing your holding weight, this is the only recommended way by Bowtech to us their Authorized Bowtech Dealer to ajust the letoff onthe Bowtech Guardians. (*****,[/align]The screw by itself will not effect the let off. If the 65%letoff cap is installed, it will eeffect the letoff. The hole the screw is going in is also designed as the attachment hole for the cap.[/align]Thanks, [/align]John Nelson[/align]BowTech[/align]Customer Service Manager)[/align] |
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ORIGINAL: western outdoors ORIGINAL: Lady Forge but I know it isn't by adding a bolt on the back side of the draw module. I talked to Bowtech, and they recommended adding the bolt to the draw module. It has nothing to do with changing the letoff. Between my Husband and I we personnaly own 5 Bowtech Guardians and play with the letoff on them all the time as well as all the Guardians I sell and work on at the bow shop, and I can say personally that I hate shooting my Guardian at 65 % Letoff [:@]I guess I just got spoiled by the 80%. That bushing that you cut to fit and then heat shrink and add to the screw that you screw into the module willretard the rotationof the cam off the cable just a tad enough to change the letoff thus increasing your holding weight, this is the only recommended way by Bowtech to us their Authorized Bowtech Dealer to ajust the letoff onthe Bowtech Guardians. (*****, [/align]The screw by itself will not effect the let off. If the 65%letoff cap is installed, it will eeffect the letoff. The hole the screw is going in is also designed as the attachment hole for the cap. [/align]Thanks, [/align]John Nelson [/align]BowTech [/align]Customer Service Manager) [/align] Dan |
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Does anyone have a picture of this mysterious 65% letoff cap they can post on here for clarification?
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ORIGINAL: western outdoors Does anyone have a picture of this mysterious 65% letoff cap they can post on here for clarification? Dan |
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ORIGINAL: MeanV2 ORIGINAL: western outdoors Does anyone have a picture of this mysterious 65% letoff cap they can post on here for clarification? Dan |
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but I don't think that adding that little home made rubbersleeve around the bolt would constitute as the cap). Thanks for the info;) |
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What John Nelson e-mailed is correct. There is a pair of molded caps that fit over the ends of the modules which are held on by shoulder socket screws.These caps are to lower the let-off to approx. 65%.
The screws on the inside of the modules shouldnot effect the let-off however it is possible they could. They may however be the cause of an audible clicking noise if they don't have shrick tubing or some type ofvinyl tubing on them. Here is a picture of the let-off caps not installed on modules.  Here are the caps installed on the modules.  And here are the shoulder socket screws on the inside of the modules. This pair has shrink tubing installed on them to help prevent the clicking noise.  Hope this helps clear things up... |
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Thanks BowTech Shooter for the pictures and clearing that up.
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Bowtech Shooter;
Thanks for posting the info and the pic's its nice to get some clarity on the subject. Playing with the screws and the # and thickness of shrink bushing has altered the letoff for us, but it would have been so much easier with your above posted Caps. Now I will have to wonder why they have been telling us another thing????[&:] Guess that Phone call to Bowtech is seriously needed!! |
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