Draw length ?
 

I have a question about my draw length. The current bow I am shooting is a mathews q2xl, 29 inch cam, with a string loop added. When I draw my bow back, the string settles on the tip of my nose, in the corner of my mouth, and one of the fletches touches lightly against my face. This feels very comfortable. When I was about 19 years old I had my draw length measured at a pro shop and they said that it was 30 inches. So every bow that I shot from there on out was a 30 inch bow, shot off the string. I visited another pro shop last night and the guy there told me he would bet that I have a 29 inch draw since everything feels right with my bow set up that way, and that the first pro shop might have measured me to long in draw length. When I shot a 30 inch bow off the string I never really had any problems with slapping my arm, which is common with to long a length. I know that the majority of people on here state that a loop doesn' t actually add to your draw length, but that it changes your anchor. I am wondering since the 29 inch cam and loop feels so comfortable to me, is if I have always had a 29 inch draw length and have just gotten use to anchoring slightly different. It would explain why it feels right, I guess. So if the loop actually doesn' t add to draw length, and the 29 inch cam fits me so well, then it looks like the guy last night could be right. I have ordered a mathews lx, with a 29 inch cam, going by what feels right to me now on my q2xl. I hope I made the right choice. What do you all think? Please give me your opinions so I feel better about my decision.

Thank you

Bhunter32

RE: Draw length ?
 

Did he tell you that on that bow if you change from 80 % to 65% you lose 1/2 " of draw length? It won' t matter if you shoot 80%. But if you want 65 % you probably need him to order you a 29.5" cam.

RE: Draw length ?
 

that is backwards your anchor point is the same but the draw is longer with a loop

I agree you need the 29.5 Cam

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A loop does not change your drawlength it only changes you anchor point. If you [ measured 29 then you should shoot 29 with a loop or not. The loop changes the way you anchor, you anchor may be deeper on your cheek but you draw will still be 29.:D

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sorry but you are wrong. Your anchor point remains neut. your draw will be longer due to the added length of the loop.[ie] If you use a kisser it will stay at the same point with or without a D loop.;)

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You proved my point right there, if the kisser does not move, if you anchor in the same place then the DL has not changed, Only where you anchor your release has becasue of the loop.

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Let me add to this, Your DL is measured from the string " Nock Point " to the throat of your grip at full draw. Adding a loop does not change this. Your arrow still nocks on the string in the same place.

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No I proved my point and so did Siskyou

the kisser to the corner of my mouth is my anchor. the loop has changed the distance in which you draw back which is around 3/4"

trust me on this I am an archery Tech
I set-up bows for a living.

RE: Draw length ?
 

So how do you measure your DL?

I did a wing span on myself and got 28" . I ordered my Hoyt 28" . Now reguardless loop or not I am 28 and my bow is 28. If I add a loop I will anchor on my cheek 1/2 inch farther back but the string still touches my nose in the same place. the bow still draws 28" .

I will agree that you may think it is longer because you are farther back on your face but other than that nothing has changed. Both are still 28" . Black and White measurements will not change. your anchor point will.

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The debate here seems to be what you call your anchor. My anchor point to me, is where I place my hand at my jaw bone. The kisser button, fletch, and string touching my nose are reference points to confirm that the anchor is right. When I sharted shooting a shorter bow, I was pulling those reference points back to their old familar spots, but my hand was farther back, I was no longer using good back tension, and my right shoulder developed a dandy case of rotator cuff tendonitis. I have since shortened the draw length so that my hand is in the proper position, and I am able to use back tension instead of my shoulder to pull into the wall. This causes me to lean my head forward slightly to feel the same reference points, but this is preferable to the inability to shoot due to constant soreness!;) I have noticed a definite difference in the whole anchor /reference point relationship since I have been trying to shoot a shorter (34" ) bow compared to my more familiar bows (40" +). I have often heard about draw length / anchor point is affected by a string loop, has anyone else noticed that it is affected by axle to axle length (string angle)? It seems to me that I can either adapt to the leaning forward head thing, or drop the short bow thing and go back to a longer axle bow. Drawing back farther to make my reference points feel right is no longer an option.

RE: Draw length ?
 

Obviously useing a loop adds at least a 1/2 to 3/4 " to your draw . The Q2XL does not come with an 80% cam and its not an option . If it feels right keep it , if the string is in the midel of your nose and your bow arm is slightly bent you should be close to your corect draw length .

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Grndzer some people like to keep the nock as their anchor and others use a part of their hand to a certain part of the face.
If you anchor the nock to the corner of your mouth you do not need to change however if you anchor with your handyou will want to shorten your draw aprox 1"
whether you need to shorten the draw or not depends on your particular form or method of anchoring, although the DL has remained the same. the distance in which you must draw bask has changed.


actually there are several ways to measure draw length
one is by wingspan, another is sleeve length measurement , another is fist to wall
and another is a measuring bow. one method is no better than any other.