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Quakklz 05-29-2008 06:48 PM

String supressors??
 
I am only asking because I don't know. Do the "Mean V" or STSstring supressors really make that much of a difference? I shoot a new Reflex Ridgeline 32. When I shoot it, I think I hear string noise. However, my buddies say my bow is pretty quiet. Is it normal to hear some string because I am so close to it as opposed to somebody or a deer who is at least 10 ft away? I have heardfolks debate overthe "Mean V" vs. STS & seen the Mean V web site. I am intruiged, but am wondering if it is just another gadget to buy & make my bow heavier. Any input would be great!


Quack..quack....BOOM!

kingvjack 05-29-2008 06:53 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Nevermind I thought you were talking about leeches.... post edited due to lack of basic comprehension

slayer_54 05-29-2008 09:04 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
this has bugged me too. bow makers claim that it makes bows more quiet, and accurrate.

western outdoors 05-30-2008 08:31 AM

RE: String supressors??
 
They do work. They help with both noise and vibraton. I have a Truth 2 that has two built in dampeners, and I like it a lot. I also have the original Truth bow, which I added an aftermarket stopper to. It does make it quieter and smoother. Recently I tried an 82nd Airborne with its built in string suppressor. I shot it both with the suppressor off and on. It was a night and day difference. Without it, the bow wantedtovibrate right out of myhand. With it, I could barely feel any vibration at all. I really think it is going to depend on the bow. Some bowsnaturally have very little vibration and are pretty quiet. It might be hard to tell a lot of difference on those bows. Other bows inherently have morevibration, andyou can noticeably tell a difference on those bows. I say they are worth it.

SwampCollie 05-30-2008 10:50 AM

RE: String supressors??
 
They definately do work very well. I have a CSS from meanv on mine, and it'll be standard equipment on every bow I own that doesn't come with one. It allows you to pick up some speed by taking the leeches off your string. It acts just like a finger on a guitar string.

As to the weight... its minimal... maybe3-4 ounces.

MeanV2 05-30-2008 05:11 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
I have told people lots of times, String Suppressors are a great accessory because they work. Buy the one of your choosing and enjoy the benefits!;)

I have had several come by and shoot my bows with the MeanV installed, and I have yet to have anyone walk away without purchasing one.

This one is in HD Green. I have several patterns available.

Dan



MeanV2 05-30-2008 05:12 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Average weight is 2 1/4 ounces including both rubber pieces.;)

Dan

PABuck_HNTR 05-30-2008 05:50 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Dan, do you have the camo pattern that matches the Diamond Marquis?

MeanV2 05-30-2008 09:03 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR

Dan, do you have the camo pattern that matches the Diamond Marquis?
What pattern is it??

I have them all so it doesn't matter!;)

Dan

Kelly/KY 05-30-2008 09:12 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Trust Dan, they work and his the best. I wouldn't set up a bow without one. They really do quieten down any bow. I placed one on my guardian, which is already crazy quiet and it now sounds like a someone shooting a blow gun...almost nothing.

Centaur 1 05-30-2008 09:22 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
They work, definately not a gimmick. They may not be a neccesity but once you use one you'll never want to be without.

LKNCHOPPERS 05-31-2008 12:08 PM

RE: String suppressors??
 
String Suppressors work very well. I don't use any silencers or leaches on my string anymore just the string suppressor.

LIAF 05-31-2008 12:19 PM

RE: String suppressors??
 
I do not have any string suppressors on my ross 337but I purchased a crossbow this year and found out that a crossbow is very loud. So I purchased a STSfor my excalibur phoenixand can say it was one of my best investments that I made for a piece of archery equipment. i have thought about putting one on my ross but it is pretty quiet the way it is set up.

Quakklz 05-31-2008 06:41 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Dan,

So let's say I want to get one. I shoot a Reflex Ridgeline 32. It does not have a rear facing threaded stabilizer bushing. Also, there is a Rizer Shox vibration dampener right onthe side of the riser where the front mount string suppressor would go around the riser. Do you havea model that will work on this bow? If so, is it asking too much to get itin Realtree APG HD camo? Thanks.


Quakklz


MeanV2 05-31-2008 07:56 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: Quakklz

Dan,

So let's say I want to get one. I shoot a Reflex Ridgeline 32. It does not have a rear facing threaded stabilizer bushing. Also, there is a Rizer Shox vibration dampener right onthe side of the riser where the front mount string suppressor would go around the riser. Do you havea model that will work on this bow? If so, is it asking too much to get itin Realtree APG HD camo? Thanks.


Quakklz


You might have to remove the Riser shok. I can get front mounts in APG-HD. It just takes a little longer.

Dan

PABuck_HNTR 06-01-2008 07:44 AM

RE: String supressors??
 
The Marquis is Hardwoods Grey I didn't see that color on the website

MeanV2 06-01-2008 08:20 AM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR

The Marquis is Hardwoods Grey I didn't see that color on the website
HD Hardwoods is it.

Dan

Quakklz 06-03-2008 05:09 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
So, ifI understand this correctly, shouldI install a Mean V or STS I can get rid of the String Shox from my string as it would make them unecessary? Yes or No?


Quakklz

MeanV2 06-03-2008 05:29 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: Quakklz

So, ifI understand this correctly, shouldI install a Mean V or STS I can get rid of the String Shox from my string as it would make them unecessary? Yes or No?


Quakklz
Most people who use a string suppressor will take off their string silencers with No ill effects.

Dan

Quakklz 06-03-2008 05:52 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Dan,

I appreciate your quick responses &enlightening information. I see on your sight you need measurements for the rear bushing mounted Mean V. Do you need measurements for the front mounted suppressors, as it looks as thought they are adjustable? Also, you mentioned extra cost for the APG HD camo. I am interested.... how much more?


Quakklz

RLoving1 06-03-2008 06:13 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
I removed the string leeches from my Extreme...not by choice...the meanv puts the brakes on string travel and makes for fast arrow separation from string! The sts's systems make string attachments sorta danderous to me,might be ok with cat whiskers though.The meanv makes the Black Ice pretty silent far as I can tell.

MeanV2 06-03-2008 06:22 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: Quakklz

Dan,

I appreciate your quick responses &enlightening information. I see on your sight you need measurements for the rear bushing mounted Mean V. Do you need measurements for the front mounted suppressors, as it looks as thought they are adjustable? Also, you mentioned extra cost for the APG HD camo. I am interested.... how much more?


Quakklz
No measurement needed on the Front Mounts. Custom Camo dipped are$14 extra. The only downside is a longer turn around, but we are happy to do whatever color you prefer.

Dan

Ben / PA 06-03-2008 06:48 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2


ORIGINAL: Quakklz

Dan,

I appreciate your quick responses &enlightening information. I see on your sight you need measurements for the rear bushing mounted Mean V. Do you need measurements for the front mounted suppressors, as it looks as thought they are adjustable? Also, you mentioned extra cost for the APG HD camo. I am interested.... how much more?


Quakklz
No measurement needed on the Front Mounts. Custom Camo dipped are$14 extra. The only downside is a longer turn around, but we are happy to do whatever color you prefer.

Dan
Sooooo worth the money and the extra time is minimal for what you are getting. Great product from a great producer.:D


Quakklz 06-03-2008 07:44 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Daaang! Looks sweet bowtechben. If it works as good.... I am sold. Dan, you've got mail!


Quakklz

Ben / PA 06-04-2008 12:45 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
You won't be disappointed.

JNTURK 06-04-2008 08:27 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
question about the sts : i can see how it would make it more silent, however how does it improve on accuracy? if by the time the string hits the rubber stopper - the arrow is already gone off of the string and therefore is free flying and not in contact with the bow anymore I cannot visualize how it improves accuracy?

MeanV2 06-04-2008 08:40 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Watch slow motion video. The Arrow is not off the string at BH without a Suppressor. Some claim that the arrow leaves the string at the same point every time with a suppressor installed making the shot more consistent.

Not so without one!;)

Dan

JNTURK 06-04-2008 08:59 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
do you happen to know of a link showing the slow motion of an arrow with and without a suppressor?

you say it yourself "Some claim that the arrow leaves the string at the same point every time with a suppressor installed making the shot more consistent"... I am not trying to down the product as the silencing capabilities is more then enough to put it on any bow, but saying or "claiming" it improves accuracy just has me thinkin.

I need to see it for some reason. I can't see how a string traveling at the speed wouldn't release the arrow at the same point (or very very close to the same point) every time. Assuming everything else on the bow stays the same. The difference in very close to very very close shouldn't play a role in bad arrow flight.



Old/New 06-04-2008 09:04 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2

Watch slow motion video. The Arrow is not off the string at BH without a Suppressor. Some claim that the arrow leaves the string at the same point every time with a suppressor installed making the shot more consistent.

Not so without one!;)

Dan


I agree. The STS has the potential for providing more consistancy therefore better acuracy though that is probably difficult to measure.

Some also say since the string does not stay with the arrow as long it could help with any "blip" you make. The down side is because of the same reason you could lose a tad bit of speed (though some say they measured and foundno appreciable difference).

JNTURK 06-04-2008 09:08 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: Old/New


ORIGINAL: MeanV2

Watch slow motion video. The Arrow is not off the string at BH without a Suppressor. Some claim that the arrow leaves the string at the same point every time with a suppressor installed making the shot more consistent.

Not so without one!;)

Dan


I agree. The STS has the potential for providing more consistancy therefore better acuracy though that is probably difficult to measure.

Some also say since the string does not stay with the arrow as long it could help with any "blip" you make. The down side is because of the same reason you could lose a tad bit of speed (though some say they measured and foundno appreciable difference).
this could make since, but are there any slow motion videos showing the two?

MeanV2 06-04-2008 09:18 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: Old/New


ORIGINAL: MeanV2

Watch slow motion video. The Arrow is not off the string at BH without a Suppressor. Some claim that the arrow leaves the string at the same point every time with a suppressor installed making the shot more consistent.

Not so without one!;)

Dan


I agree. The STS has the potential for providing more consistancy therefore better acuracy though that is probably difficult to measure.

Some also say since the string does not stay with the arrow as long it could help with any "blip" you make. The down side is because of the same reason you could lose a tad bit of speed (though some say they measured and foundno appreciable difference).
I have Too Much Feedback from guys saying their shooting has improved just to ignore that possibility.

I said "Some Claim"

Because I know on the forums several will argue about anything so I didn't want to make any definite statements without Lab reports to back it up!![8D]

Dan

JNTURK 06-04-2008 09:37 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
I am sorry...I was not try to fight a battle nor say that this product was not to what you say it is. I am just simply curious,that is all,nothing more...I am sorry if I offended you,this was not my goal. I was just trying to understand the product a bit more.

you say that many claim that there shooting has improved, do you think it is what was said above about helping the possible "blip"??



y2khog 06-05-2008 10:59 AM

RE: String supressors??
 
Bowtecben, what bow is that supressor on? Is that your 101?

Ben / PA 06-05-2008 11:44 AM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: y2khog

Bowtecben, what bow is that supressor on? Is that your 101?
Yes sir, that is a Mean V suppressor on my 2008 101st in the Max 4 Camo....Dan dips his suppressors to match and I sound like a broken record but "every time that I buy a boy, Dan will get an order from me." I know the 101 has one on there factory, but its right up where all the action is....I took it off and got a Mean V, I love the way they look, feel(lt wt), and just plain work.

y2khog 06-05-2008 12:58 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Ben, no issues with removing the roller? It looks like it would wear the paint off pretty quick as well as add some friction.

MeanV2 06-05-2008 01:05 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: y2khog

Ben, no issues with removing the roller? It looks like it would wear the paint off pretty quick as well as add some friction.
You don't remove the Roller guard. Ben put his MeanV on the lower mount hole;)

Dan

Ben / PA 06-05-2008 01:09 PM

RE: String supressors??
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2


ORIGINAL: y2khog

Ben, no issues with removing the roller? It looks like it would wear the paint off pretty quick as well as add some friction.
You don't remove the Roller guard. Ben put his MeanV on the lower mount hole;)

Dan
I removed the factory suppressor which is attached to the roller. And yes I put the Mean V in the lower mount hole.;) Love this set up....I also loved the Mean V on the Commander that I had too.

y2khog 06-05-2008 01:38 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
Seems like that would make the bow a little bottom heavy during the shot. Kinda like having the tiller out of adjustment. Just trying to learn, been out of it for about 15yrs.
Thanks

Old/New 06-05-2008 06:50 PM

RE: String supressors??
 
For the record I have Dan's string supressor on my Liberty. I think it's made quite a difference!

Correction...I know it's made quite a difference. I just like to mention what others say about SSTs in general.


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