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Rick James 04-07-2008 06:39 AM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Thoughts on Kevin's statement slightly prior to 3:30 of the video about "proper AMO drawlength is measured from where the bow bottoms out in holding weight... NOT to how far you can draw the bow back"?
This is how I do it. It's more consistent this way. Bows with no limb peg stop can be overdrawn 1/4" to 1/2" past this point easily.

bigcountry 04-07-2008 09:09 AM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 
I do something different. I just don't see the need for a draw board. I can see a full draw tool on the apple press handy. But I have a hook in my garage, and I pull the bow to full length and watch what is happening. That way, I can be sure I don't overdraw, and its only a hook. I also put a hook in the floor with the plans of putting a ratchet strap on it to hold the bow at full draw, but I just don't trust that.

If I need to use my spot hogg laser to check cam lean, I get someone to hold it for me.



Finch 04-07-2008 09:15 AM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

I do something different. I just don't see the need for a draw board. I can see a full draw tool on the apple press handy. But I have a hook in my garage, and I pull the bow to full length and watch what is happening. That way, I can be sure I don't overdraw, and its only a hook. I also put a hook in the floor with the plans of putting a ratchet strap on it to hold the bow at full draw, but I just don't trust that.

If I need to use my spot hogg laser to check cam lean, I get someone to hold it for me.


I find it easier with a drawboard but thats just me. I tried the "hook and pull" method but didn't like it. I guess another good thing about a draw board is measuring nock travel. I'm uninformed on nock travel so I really can't explain that one any further.;)

bigcountry 04-10-2008 07:21 PM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 
Do you guys set your timing at full draw with the stops hitting at the same time? I have never tried but always wondered if creep tuning worked on binary. Its hard to creep on a binary cam however. Not like bows of the past.

Greg / MO 04-10-2008 08:15 PM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 

Bows with no limb peg stop can be overdrawn 1/4" to 1/2" past this point easily.
Very good point, RJ... I've shot Bowtech for so long now that I've forgotten what it's like to pull back a bow withoutthat solid wall via the draw-stop peg... :)

Finch 04-11-2008 11:22 AM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry

Do you guys set your timing at full draw with the stops hitting at the same time? I have never tried but always wondered if creep tuning worked on binary. Its hard to creep on a binary cam however. Not like bows of the past.
Yes, my cables are hitting the stops at exactly the same time. I thought I remember reading a post somewhere about creep tuning a binary, maybe not.

bigcountry 04-11-2008 11:24 AM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 

ORIGINAL: ducsauce


ORIGINAL: bigcountry

Do you guys set your timing at full draw with the stops hitting at the same time? I have never tried but always wondered if creep tuning worked on binary. Its hard to creep on a binary cam however. Not like bows of the past.
Yes, my cables are hitting the stops at exactly the same time. I thought I remember reading a post somewhere about creep tuning a binary, maybe not.
I am not sure it can be done, but curious about it as thier is little to no valley on binary cams. I just fixed my sync on my commander last night. The back wall felt spoungy lately, and sure enough my top cam was hitting the cable first with 1/8" to spare on the bottom. I also have noticed the bow had more vibration andnoise. So fixed it up and fixed alot. Also got my lbs back up to 70.

If you see that article I wouldn't mind reading it.

Finch 04-11-2008 12:00 PM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 
If I come across it, I'll let you know. The commander has a draw stop peg, right? I know on my tribute if I try to creep my arm will come out of socket.

bowdaddy64 04-11-2008 09:02 PM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 
Just a quick question about binary cams and timing, I thought that the binarys would always stay in time due to design and take-up positioning,I wasn't worried withmy Diamond, being a single cam. Its not a problem I've had to address before. Just wonder'n

Doegirl75 04-12-2008 10:07 AM

RE: For those with Binary cams
 
Bowdaddy64: A binary can go out of synch if a cable touches one draw stop before the other. Keep in mind you've got 3 draw stops, one on each cam (built into the module) and the moveable draw stop peg.
For those interested: http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=626255.


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