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Huntoholic 03-04-2008 06:57 PM

Arrows diving
 
My arrows seem to dive at closer distances. Almost looks like im shootingwhile elevated. What am I supposed to be looking for?

SwampCollie 03-04-2008 08:23 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
Do you mean when they are stuck in the target they are not perpendicular to the target face.... as if you'd shot them from an elevated position?

Rob/PA Bowyer 03-04-2008 08:39 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
Your probably nock high.

BGfisher 03-04-2008 09:08 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
I hate to sound like a ball buster, but if you have a need to ask about something this basic then you should probably find and attain the services of a local pro-shop.

SwampCollie 03-04-2008 10:43 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
Or if you are standing up and you have a block/bag target set on the ground then... you are infact elevated....;)

Huntoholic 03-05-2008 08:03 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
Let me give you some more information. Yes my arrows seem to be at more of an angle when in the target than they should be. My nock is right. I have made sure the arrow sits level in the rest. I am using a two prong rest. And to answer bg fisher, Sorry we wernt all born full of archery know how. I am trying to learnas I go. I have gone over the basics and I thought I could obtain some more knowledgehere on hunting net. If You haveno infothat is helpful in me understanding more about what may be happeningplease just dont post.

archer 2 03-05-2008 08:12 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
Huntoholic , I guess BG has his panties in a wad or something. BG , people come here looking for information not to be harassed by you . Did you always know everything right away , doubtful . Huntoholic , what type of backstop are you shooting into, sometimes the backstop itself will make the arrow look like that. At our club we shoot into celotex and the arrows look like they are going in at odd angles because of the material. Could something like this be what is causing your arrows to look like that?

BGfisher 03-05-2008 08:38 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
Whoa, I apologize if I was misinterpretted. I meant no harm in my comment. Maybe apicture would have helped, but all I meant to say was that some hands-on help and first hand eyeballing would probably be better suited to give you help.

I realize that you are trying to learn and that's a good thing. Just that on internet forums you can get so many differing opinions that you can become more confused about your particular situation. This just seems like one of those problems that needs to be seen to tell what's going on.

Believe me I had good intentions. To that end I still think I gave you good advice.

archer 2 03-05-2008 08:59 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 

I hate to sound like a ball buster, but if you have a need to ask about something this basic then you should probably find and attain the services of a local pro-shop.
This is not giving any advice at all this is being a $%# , well you can fill in the letters.

SwampCollie 03-05-2008 10:28 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 


ORIGINAL: archer 2


I hate to sound like a ball buster, but if you have a need to ask about something this basic then you should probably find and attain the services of a local pro-shop.
This is not giving any advice at all this is being a $%# , well you can fill in the letters.

I beg to differ. I think what BG said was totally appropriate. His comment that he "hated to sound like a ball buster" was a preamble of sorts to appologise for how that comment was going to come out. No matter who you are, when someone recommends you leave it to a pro, it sort of sounds condiscending. I don't think BG was out of line at all.

It is true that technical advice is very difficult to give via the internet. Pictures are worth 1000 words. Nobody expects anyone to be born full of archery knowledge. I am a professional bow tech and there is still seldom a day where I don't learn something new, and I've been at it a while.

I promise you that I could sit here and type until the sun rises tomorrow, but if I had 20 minutes with you in person I could teach you more in that 20 minutes than I could in 10 hours worth of typing. So going to pro shop and asking much the same question as on here is not bad or inappropiate advice at all. Sorry it wasn't what you wanted to hear.

archer 2 03-05-2008 10:43 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
No the way he put it was way out of line , no two ways about it. If he doesnt want to even try to help then he shouldnt even bother to make comments like he did. Say what you want but the way his comment came out he acted like a #@$%

OHbowhntr 03-06-2008 09:51 AM

RE: Arrows diving
 

ORIGINAL: archer 2

No the way he put it was way out of line , no two ways about it. If he doesnt want to even try to help then he shouldnt even bother to make comments like he did. Say what you want but the way his comment came out he acted like a #@$%
Archer,
In all honesty, I agree with Swampcollie, BG apoligized for the way it would sound, and may be right, he may need to see his local bowshop if he isn't exactly sure what is causing this. I also agree that a picture or two is definitely needed.

Huntoholic,
Can you adjust the tension of your rest, or LOCK it in the upright position. This is one of the CON'S of prong rests that sometimes you have to toy with a lot of things to figure out WHAT really is the problem, then find out it was weak spring tension causing much of your difficulty. But you can also have that tension too tight, so it's a little trial and error, but I've found less problems with the tension being too tight than being too weak. The other thing that may be possible is contact. I've found that the HIGH profile of BLAZER's makes for a less than optimal match up with a NAP QT1000 rest, and this is exactly what I had happening.

Huntoholic 03-07-2008 10:20 AM

RE: Arrows diving
 
I thank everyone for there advice. I have decided to back away from the prong rest and pick up a ultra rest. My matthews has this system and i love it. Again thank you all.

archer 2 03-07-2008 06:57 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
He only apologized after getting his rearend blasted. Putting comments like he did is what will turn people away from forums when they are only looking for information. THe way BG came across is like he was calling the guy an idiot. You can befriend him all you want but he came across as a JERK.

BGfisher 03-07-2008 08:08 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 

ORIGINAL: archer 2

He only apologized after getting his rearend blasted. Putting comments like he did is what will turn people away from forums when they are only looking for information. THe way BG came across is like he was calling the guy an idiot. You can befriend him all you want but he came across as a JERK.
OK, so I sounded like a JERK. And I apologized. Whether before or after getting blasted. I'm not the most articulate person in the world. I make mistakes. I admit it. I'm human. So what would you have me do to make amends? It seems as it is you can't let it go. I have. I got better things to do with my life than hold a grudge against somebody I don't even know.

nodog 03-07-2008 08:35 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 

ORIGINAL: BGfisher

I hate to sound like a ball buster,
LOL:D

AL... F 03-07-2008 08:37 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 
archer2 i dont post here much,when i have BG has gone out of his way and dealt with me one on one thru e-mails and was very helpfulto me,and that is a basic question in the fact that it may be a number of things that arent right in the set up causing the arrow to dive it could be the rest, the nock, the fletchings, the angle in which the target is being shot, too much weight forward in the arrow itsself, and yes instead of fiddling with a bunch of everything take it to a shop so someone can see what is going on first hand.
and you gotta remember on here it is hard to express the intent of what is said because you cannot hear the tone or see facial expressions so dont take things to heart so easy.
hey BG my boots dont fit what size should i get?

nodog 03-07-2008 08:43 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 

ORIGINAL: archer 2


I hate to sound like a ball buster, but if you have a need to ask about something this basic then you should probably find and attain the services of a local pro-shop.
This is not giving any advice at all this is being a $%# , well you can fill in the letters.
Come on. He was just talking like he's with friends.

nodog 03-07-2008 08:45 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 

ORIGINAL: AL... F


hey BG my boots dont fit what size should i get?
LOL :D

nodog 03-07-2008 08:47 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 

ORIGINAL: BGfisher


ORIGINAL: archer 2

He only apologized after getting his rearend blasted. Putting comments like he did is what will turn people away from forums when they are only looking for information. THe way BG came across is like he was calling the guy an idiot. You can befriend him all you want but he came across as a JERK.
OK, so I sounded like a JERK. And I apologized. Whether before or after getting blasted. I'm not the most articulate person in the world. I make mistakes. I admit it. I'm human. So what would you have me do to make amends? It seems as it is you can't let it go. I have. I got better things to do with my life than hold a grudge against somebody I don't even know.
Yep "bake him a cake or something".:D

SwampCollie 03-08-2008 10:15 PM

RE: Arrows diving
 


ORIGINAL: archer 2

He only apologized after getting his rearend blasted. Putting comments like he did is what will turn people away from forums when they are only looking for information. THe way BG came across is like he was calling the guy an idiot. You can befriend him all you want but he came across as a JERK.

At this point... only one person on this thread has sounded like a "JERK" to me.....


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