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What do you guys think about the laser tuning? Is it equal to paper tuning?? My pro shop says it is.

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no i would always checkby paper tuning. it dosen't cost you anything and that way you know for sure. heck try a bare shaft while you are at it

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Paper tuning, bareshaft tuning, walk back tuning and group tuning. All of these should be done after laser tuning (if laser tuning is just setting up center shot and a level arrow).

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What they said.

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EventhoughI like to check everything with a laser on initial setup it is in no way a substitute for tuning your bow. I am not big on paper tuning, but prefer bare shaft and walk back tuning.

Dan

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Well I told him that you guys would say that paper tuning is always best, he said he still didn't think it was necessary, but he would paper tune it with me if I like.

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It's a checks and balancing system. Laser and level will give you perfect center shot and a level arrow. Sometimes that's all that is needed IF the shooter has good form, there are no other bow issues etc.

My Allegiance, that's all I did was level and laser tune it, no paper, etc and it shoots perfect darts and has all broadheads I put through it hitting with fieldpoints.

BUT, I got lucky. Paper will show you inconsistancies in a shooters form such as torque, arrow spine issues for just some examples.

Again, all the tuning methods will fix most issues. Some are not always needed.

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I believe that laser tuningcan bevery good. It normally sets everything up so that the string will produce max force behind the arrow. The trick then would be to tune the arrow to the bow and not the bow to the arrow. That's how I'd do it anyway.

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That is what I do if I am making a new arrow. With my current bow I already had a certain type of arrow made so, when paper tuning, I turned down the draw weight until I got bullet holes. Then, when bareshaft tuning, I tweaked the draw weight a little more.

If it was a traditional bow I would have had to cut the arrows :D;).

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very good advice, 100% agree

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Laser is for initial setup. You may shoot perfect bullet holes right off the bat but probably not.

I would not do the paper tuning with that guy. If he said he doesn't think it is needed, he doesn't want to be bothered. Paper tuning can take a long time if you don't know what you are doing and you will notwant to be rushed.

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Yup, you could also mess with the weight of the tips, etc. if you do not want to change the length of the arrow.

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A laser is not going to tell you how the bow reacts to you while you are shooting it. That is the whole purpose of tuning a bow. We are tuning the bow to how we shoot, other wise we wouldn't need to tune it. Just get good arrows and shoot it. If we all shot like a machine we wouldn't even need to tune a bow, the arrows would all go in the same place anyway.

Using a laser is great for initial set up I guess if you want to verify that everything is square BEFORE you start tuning, however I don't feel it's a substitute for tuning. I normally just eyeball everything since I know I'm going to end up adjusting it anyway.

I don't really paper tune that often though, I just skip it and go right to group or bare shaft tuning or broad head tuning if that is my goal.

Paper tuning can be pretty deceiving if you don't know what to look for. Form or release problems can show up as tuning issues and you will pull your hair out adjusting things when in the end your grip just wasn't consistent or something like that.

This is true of any tuning though. Always remember, you can't tune any better than you can shoot. If you shoot 5 inch groups at 20 yards don't expect to tune your bow and be breaking nocks off. Chances are it just isn't going to happen.

My opinion anyway.

Paul

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But are you tuning to how the bow reacts or how the arrow reacts when pushed throughthe centershot (set with the laser) of the particular compound bow?