Can a shorter draw length realy benefit?
 

Hey folks,

I have been looking around online at all the highend bows and their claims at arrow speeds, WOW!What I was wondering is if a guy like me with a 26" draw length could see a dramatic deference in speed with one of these bows??? I have an 07 Martin Jaguar bought used (andcheap)that is set to 62lbs, again with a 26" draw length. I really like the bow but I have to set pins at 10,20,30 and 40. I hear of folks using one pin up to 30 yards?? Could I see that king of result by changing bows?? For example, I see bowtech has an Equalizer advertised that can get over 300fps at a 27.5 draw length and 60lbs. I just would like to have one pin up to 25yrds, I don't really care how fast it is going. Would this example of bowtech's equalizer do that for me??? Mycurrent set up will take a deer in the Carolina's with no problem andI am not sure what my speed is? So I am happy, butjust curious.

If anyone is bored and cares to share any experiance and knowledge I would appreciate it.

Thanks!!!

RE: Can a shorter draw length realy benefit?
 

HMMMMMMMMM

I'm 26.5 with a Mathews XT @ 67lb , shooting axis's 400- 26 3/4 long and I'm only using one sight pin out to 30 yards.

I would think maybe its your arrows and a few more pound up could change that...

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I had a 2006 equalizer set at 63# and 26" draw, with a 3 pin vital bow gear sight set at 20, 30, and 40 yards without any problems. ANY bow can be set for ANY yardage, you just have to learn how to compensate for anything outside of your pin range by practicing, and know your own limitations.

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One pin to 30 yards is not what it actually seems.

Even the fastest of bows will still shoot a little high at 20 and a little low at 30. As stated above, it is about compensation and your definition of accuracy.

If you are striving for minute of angle type accuracy, then one pin will not cut it.
If we are talking about minute of whitetail, then you can probably get by with a single pin.

As for a guy with a 26" draw, unfortunately archery benefits those with a longer draw. Unless you go with a crazy light arrow and a very high draw weight, you are not destined for 300+ fps performance.

That being said, a bow shooting 200fps sighted in with pins at 20, 30 and 40 can be just as accurate as one shooting 300fps. What you give up is some forgiveness with yardage error. Personally, I have stopped worrying about my arrow speed and concentrated more on being able to properly gap my pins for those "tween" shots (i.e. 34 yarders).

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In short, yes technologies (more radical cams, short limbs, short brace height) will gain you speed but an '07 Martin Jaguar isn't exactly outdated so I'm not sure what you'd gain over your current rig. The question is if what you gain is going to be worth the cost? I personally doubt that you'll see enough benefit to be worth getting rid of your Martin, especially if it's shooting well for you.

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There are deffinetly bows out there that are faster than what you have. The short draw length specialized bows such as the equalizer and Ross's new SD cardiac help because they have a shorter power stroke on the smaller cams they use which makes say a 26" draw much more effiecient on their cam than it would be say on a full sized cam. Im not sure on the equalizer, but the Ross SD cam is suppose to be 12fps faster at 28" than the regular cardiac cam at 28" both set at 60lbs and shooting the same arrow.

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Good post.

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Speed isnt everything but there are absolutly no draw backs to shooting a more efficient bow if you have a short draw.

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The Equalizer is very fast for short draw guys like us. You can use 1 pin no problem but realize that there is some + or - trajectory out to 30 yds but not enough to take you outside the vitals of a deer within that range.

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Not only flatter trajectory, should be quit a bit more KE and possibly better penetration.

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Thanks Terry, thats what I was thinking about in my first post, just I never placed in the post.

The guys all have great points and advice for you.

My Old bow shot the 20-30-40 yards and when I changed over I tried to setup the same yardage on the XT and it would not work as the pins would not go togeather close enough. I sighted in the first one at 25 yards and the second at 35 and third at 40. I don't care to shoot any farther then that at any game.

There is so many variables about your setup that could bea reason of your speed but from the post you don't bring up your arrow spec's that you are using let alone the heads, that all could change a few FPS...

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Everyone has a good point, but I just want to throw mine in.

I shot the Equalizer this year. It wasset up for elk at 60# and 26" DL. So I set the first pin at 30 yards and the second at 40. Shooting at 23 yards, it would hit about 1" high on ground level. When I was up on my treestand about 20', a deer came in about 20 - 25 yards. I put my #1 pin right on the vital and fire it. The arrow overshot by a hair and stuck into the ground. The deer didn't even notice what was going on. I have never hunt deer on treestand before, so this was my first time shooting. I have been hunting elk for over 5 years with this set up and never missed.

So if you want to set your #1 pin at 30 yards and hunting deer, I would suggest you nail down your compensation as deer get smaller at longer range.

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On my archers advantage my bow shooting 283 fps with a 385.4 grain axis arrow. My arrow scale out a little more than that, but still works out on the target. On a 8 inch vital one pin set at 25 yards will shoot 3 1/2 inch at 13 yards, 3 inches at 10 yards and 3 inches low at 30 yards, That makes one good for 10 to 30 yards. I'm shooting a Black Ice at 65 lbs at 28 inch draw and I can drive nails with it. I was putting three arrows in a 2 inch spot the other day of shooting at 30 yards with no misses after about 24 shots by just aiming a little over the top of the spot and my broadheads shoot just as good as my field points. Shot a doe by just aiming straight on at 25 and a nice buck at 30 yards aiming on and blowed through both of them just like I didn't even hit them and stuck in the ground. Both were great shots double lungs and they didn't go far and died with in sight.

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get you an old bowtech blackknight 2. IBO 350! Bad thing brace height was 5 1/2 If your consistent get one of those and peak it out shoot a light arrow, and a lightweight broadhead will help your foc be on the better end of trajectory. Then you oughta be able to use 1 pin!