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millerhunter13 10-08-2007 10:22 AM

fletching jig
 
I am new to archery and next season i want to fletch my own arrows and i was wondering if i bought my arrows from a pro shop are they straight or right helical? Because the jig is either straight or right helical and i dont know which one to get and also is there a fletch glue that works good on bohning blazer vanes?
thanks
mike

txjourneyman 10-08-2007 10:29 AM

RE: fletching jig
 
I do all of my own arrows, carbon, aluminum, and cedar. I use a Bitzenburger jig with right helical and the glue I use for feathers and vanes is Loc-Tite Super Glue gel. I have good results whether I'm making arrows for my compound or my recurve or arrows for my wife or a friend.

r33h 10-08-2007 10:42 AM

RE: fletching jig
 
I use fletch tite glue for my blazer vanes and have excellent results. I haven't ever had any issues with the vanes comming off or anything. After the vane is on the arrow, I put a little extra dab of glue on the front and back of the vane to insure that the vane doesn't come off.

As txjourneyman, I too use a bitzenburger fletcher. They are a little more expensive, but definetly worth every penny. With this fletcher, you can adjust the amount of helical you want. I put as much as I possibly can while making sure that the vane is still in full contact with the shaft (with blazer you can't get a whole lot of helical, but you can get some). Just make sure you clean and prepare you arrow shaft so you make sure to get a good bond.

millerhunter13 10-08-2007 02:03 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
well the bohning fletch jig that i was gonna by was a bit more in my price range, but besides that do i want to try straight or right helical? i guess i was shooting straight i dont know can anyone tell me if i was they were just store bough arrows with blazers on em, would they be straight? The thing is i am alittle afraid if i get right helical and i dont like or my arrows dont fly as good as they did as if they were straight.

txjourneyman 10-08-2007 02:14 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
Chances are they will fly better with a helical. The helical causes the arrow to spin creating better stability.

millerhunter13 10-08-2007 02:17 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
so then i should go with the righ helical. and will i kinda get how to dothis after i get? i hope so cause by the looks of it i am clueless.
thanks
mike

txjourneyman 10-08-2007 02:31 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
It really is pretty simple. When you get your jig get back on here and we can give you a step by step.

Purkeyb 10-08-2007 02:32 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
I use the blitzenburger with the straight jig. Iset the jig to add a slight helical. It works wonders. If you are using carbon arrows the steel force glue is unbelievable I have never had a problem with that glue with the carbon arrows. I don't recommend thesteel force for aluminum arrows.

r33h 10-08-2007 02:36 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
Hey...weren't we all clueless at one time?:)

The way to tell if your arrows have a helical on them or if they are straight fletched is look straight down the arrow from the nock and see if you can tell that your vanes are "wrapping" around your arrow. If they are, then you have a helical. If you can't see much of the vane, then you probably have only a straight fletch. As txjourneyman said, the helical will spin your arrow faster, resulting in an arrow that stablizes faster. This will give you better arrow groupings. You may not be able to tell a whole lot of improvement when shooting a target tip, but when you are shooting broadheads, your arrows will start to group together a little better with a helical. Here is a link that has a pic of arrows that have a right helical: http://www.archerytalk.com/vb/showthread.php?t=523713&highlight=helical

The bitz fletching jig is a little pricey, but you have so much control on how much helical you put on the arrow and you can fine tune it for your set up. I would start off by putting as much helical as you possibly can, making sure the base of the vane stays in contact with the shaft and go from there. It may take several tries, but you will get a setup that will work great for you...

millerhunter13 10-08-2007 02:37 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
ok well i not gonna get the jig for quite awhile. though but i will ask questions on here once i get it. thanks guys
mike

millerhunter13 10-08-2007 04:11 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
also will the blazer vanes let me put helical on em cause i know they are pretty stiff?
thanks
mike

r33h 10-09-2007 08:14 AM

RE: fletching jig
 

ORIGINAL: millerhunter13

also will the blazer vanes let me put helical on em cause i know they are pretty stiff?
thanks
mike
They will let you put a little bit of a helical on the arrow, but not much at all becuase they are 2 inches long and are pretty stiff. With the blazers, just put as much of a helical on them as you possibly can while making sure that the vane stays in full contact with the shaft. A while back, I went from shooting straight blazers vanes to helical blazer vanes and I noticed a big difference in arrow flight, stability and groupings. Just my two cents...

millerhunter13 10-09-2007 10:44 AM

RE: fletching jig
 
in a good way right?
thanks
mike

txjourneyman 10-09-2007 10:45 AM

RE: fletching jig
 
yes, in a good way.

millerhunter13 10-09-2007 10:48 AM

RE: fletching jig
 
ok then i will get the right helical jig thanks for all the help and opinions.
mike

r33h 10-09-2007 03:04 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
Yes...in a good way:)

mus_stang 10-09-2007 03:28 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
straight is alitlle faster than a helicoil....the more spinning a arrow has to do slows it down...BUT with the spin it corrects arrow flight and will improve accuracy....if i am shooting only target i use slight helicoil and when i hunt i shoot more helicoil

millerhunter13 10-09-2007 06:44 PM

RE: fletching jig
 
ok cool, well i give my arrows as much helical as i can.


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