40yds. vs. 50yds.
 

Been shooting out to 40yds. to increase my killing effectiveness and have gotten to where I'm shooting mostly 4-5 inch groups. Today I figured I'd push it out to 50 just to see what kind of drop I would have using my 40 pin. I have about an 8-10 inch difference but I was suprised at how my grouping opened up also. I'm talking like 7-8 inches. Bow shoots straight, paper tuned, the whole 9. Could it just be my shooting? I notice it is pretty hard to even pick a spot at that yardage because the pin obscures most of it. What do you guys do to shoot precisely at this type of distance?

RE: 40yds. vs. 50yds.
 

Either use a smaller dot (pin) or a larger aiming spot.

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I just put on the .19 pins for my 30 and 40 pins. I would probably never even attempt a 50 yd shot this year on a deer, but if I was going to seriously think about it I would get a 4th pin and it would be a .10 or similar.

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.19 pins are fine for shooting 50+ yards. I played around lastyear and was shooting 80 yards with .19 pins and could keep it in the kill zone easily. The smaller pins do help and it takes some practice even moving just tenyards. The farther back you move any imperfection in your form or slight tuning issues are greatly multiplied.

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I use the .019 pin for the 20,30 and 40 yrd shot's and a .010 for 50 and 60 yrd shot's .The smaller pin doesn't obscure your target as the larger pin does . Just as loogout1 has said.

nubo

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I'm thinking that if I had a 50yd pin instead of holding my 40 high, my groups would have been a little better. It definitely demonstrates the need for practice and good form for responsible shooting though.

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being alittle off will make a bigger difference the further distance you go from the target...lets say you aim dead center but when you release from that distance and you are a couple mm off it will look a couple inces at the target

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do most guys shooting at long distances put the pin right on their "spot" or do they put it just off of it like shooting open gun sights? I would think the latter would work better so as not to obscure the ttarget.

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I always put mine on the spot I wanna hit. Just like the saying says, pick a spot and settle your pin on it.

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loogout, some guys do that. some indoor spot shooters shoot like that. when you put your pin just under what you want to hit- i've heard that called lolly-popping. focus, i think, should be on the spot you want to hit and stay there as your pin slides over it. its tough. at longer distances, many others and i get caught peeking - or looking over our pin to see what we're aiming at. my deal is i like to let the pin fall a little bit, and end upa couple inches low.

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Are you shooting broadheads or field points? I have noticed that some fixed broadheads really start to open up past 40 yards.

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Shooting strykers. They shoot great at 40. Like I said, I was just holding my 40 high on the target, if and when I get serious about it I'll get another pin. I was just curious about the techniques involved with long range shots.

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No special technique - other than making sure you hold the sight pin on the target as the arrow is flying. Very tempting to lower the bow and look, since you have the better part of a whole second before the arrow gets there. Short of getting another pin, you might place some sort of aiming point about a foot above the intended point of impact, and use the 40 yard pin to shoot at 50 - see if the pin is the problem. Another issue some folks battle is that, beyond a certain distance, they can't focus on the pin very well if they are focusing on the target. One of them is going to be a blur.

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I find that if I concentrate on the spot and blur the pin my shots are much more consistant as opposed to trying to force and hold the pin at a spot on the target,but I shoot with both eyes open and it is much harder to focus on both at the same time anyway.

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I appreciate all the replies. Like Roskoe and Clint say, A man has got to know his limitations, and my limitation is 40 yds......for now. Its still double what I have shot in the past. I think I just need to shoot more long range to get more comfortable.

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It takes many years of shooting and working on form, to shoot consistent groups at long distances. your back tension andrelease is a huge part of it as you start getting out past 50 yards. its a lot of fun shooting long distance targets or 3D critters with a bow....but I've seen too many animals move before the arrow gets to them to recommend hunting distances past 40 yards. shooting 60 yards with a bow is like 250 yards with a rifle as far a holding stead goes.....you have to seriously be conscious of your breathing and the squeeze of the trigger....its no different using a trigger release on a bow. if you want to train for long distance shooting, start by joining a target league and learn the fine arts of using a back tension rope release.....i guarantee you that once you start shooting 300 rounds, you'll be able to shoot groups at 80 yards.... if you have the patience it takes to build all your arrows EXACTLY the same.....my 2 cents........Kirk

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The wind and , light arrows,big fletch , and fixed heads , all take their toll