Review my form part 2.
 

O.K., I've made a few changes. First, my drawlength has been shortened to 25". I'm shooting a different release and I adopted an open stance. I don't think the closed stance I was using will work very well with heavy hunting clothes on. Tell me whatcha think...

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All sounds good to me, when you switched releases did you got to a shorter one? I know thats alot of short draw length shooters problems is that the release is too long. My wife is shooting a tru ball copperhead with the strap style and I have the strap as short as it will go to fit her.

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Sorry, pictures didnt post the first time. Id say everything looks pretty good, only thing I would try is droping your left elbow some. You want to try and get a straight line from you elbos down through your arrow. Try it and see if it helps. Really being comfortable and consistant is what matters so do what feels good as long as your consistant.

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your draw lengh looks a bit to long.......it's supposed to be vertical w/ your eye.by the pic it looks(to me) maybe a half inch longer.....but dont take that to heart....if you feel comfortable w/ it go with it. i do agree about dropping your left arm. your forearm should be leverl w/ the arrow..try and keep that level.your stance looks good.

btw it looks like a bowtech....is it?

otto

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U lefties are backwards......:D:D

Looks pretty good, actually. It may just look this way in the photo, but you need to square your hips up. They appear to be thrust forward some......also, your bow arm shoulder is a bit collapsed. Looks pretty good though.....

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Looks like an equalizer, my wife is shooting a parker micro phoenix. I was thinking about upgrading her next year. Do you know what kind of speed you are getting and what weight arrow, draw weight ect.

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I disagree with dropping the elbow,alot swear by it but I am a true believer if it isn't comfortable down,then leave it up.Plus,it is harder to use the back muscles if the arm is down too low.It looks more like you have a low anchor and might look into raising it a bit for a little more solid feel(that should give the appearance of lowering the back elbow in line with the arrow).That will have to be a personall thing though.


Your feet should be shoulder width and you might need to practice a little closer than that for deer stand shooting.(platform width)

You look a bit wide but not bad.Your hips are pushed forward just a slight bit ,try pulling them back a little.It will feel like you are leaning forward at first but that is the right feeling,that is actually centering your weight.See your front hip is out in front of your front shoulder,it should all be in a stright vertical line,feet,hips,shoulders.


You release does look long to me.I have a short & sweet that I have shortened the rope to where there is almost no rope left.This is so I can get my finger over it and apply pressure without reaching.

The second shot is how I shoot awristrelease.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=bViuXcW-rAk

You also look like you are bending your back,NOT LEANING but almost like you are starting a back bend.You need to strighten up imo.


You MIGHT still be a little long but you are pretty close now.Maybe a 1/2"

I personally don't like an arm that bent but that is another one of those that is a personal thing.

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Here's a crappy quality video of me shooting in my basement. I did not realize I was incorporating so much extra movement in drawing the bow. Oh well, I'll get stronger :Dhttp://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v317/doegirl/?action=view&current=andr3a154.flv>

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Wow, thats one bent arm. But like T said, its a personal thing. Maybe elbow little high. Also, not sure what type of release, but might try shooting it without gripping it. Just yourwrist pulling it, and your index finger hitting the trigger. I struggle with that. But looks like decent follow thru on the release.

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The hips are worse in the video,you should be able to see it clearly in the video if you didn't see it in the pic.


Many call this leaning back when in reality your hips are just pushed forward.


In the video,you are leaning back also but you don't appear to be in the pic.

This habit can be caused from being overbowed with too much poundage and/or draw too long at some point.

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Looks good...drop the left arm a little. Also, practice from different positions. I understand that you are thinking about form right now, but when you are in an actual hunting situation you, most likely, will not be able to get your shoulders square, feet shoulder length apart, etc... One other thing to remember. If you hunt from a tree stand, remember to bend at the waist when you put the pin on the deer. Many hunters just drop their bow arm, aim, and shoot. By doing that you will throw your body position off, and as a result the shot. Come to full draw, then bend at the waist untill you have your aim ready.

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It is called muscle memory.

You practice right so you do not have to think about it in a real situation.

GOOD FORM IS EASILY REPEATABLE bad form is not.So therefore,less to remember.[8D]

Just like when a mlb player will still use a battingT for practice,working on their form and technique so they DON"T have to think about it.


Practice doesn't make perfect,perfect practice makes perfect.

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Yeah, I've catch myself throwing my hips forward all the time. This time everyone called me on it:D I find with the bent arm I don't tense up the bow so much. But I agree it does need to be straightened up a touch. Honestly, I could crank the bow down a couple pounds, I'm just not willing too. The broadheads are flying way to well to be screwing with the setup.[:-]

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If you think you need to crank the poundage down,then you probably need to.

Honestly,I was going to suggest it.I also really believe you need to be shorter on draw,but it is real hard to know for sure,untill the hips and leaning are corrected.Some will say that is backwardsbut I have been accused of being backwards before.[:o]

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I agree with this 100%.That means that when you start getting tired and/or form starts to go bad, put the bow away. 5 minuets of good practice is worth more then 5 hours of bad practice.

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You look good , from the picture your draw length looks pretty good , but your release forearm is not pointed down the shaft , it should be , your release elbow is up too high . Remember , down the arrow , once you get it level , make sure its not going to the left or right also.

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3 time vegas champ.Elbow even with eye,above arrow.


7 time national champ elbow even with eye,abovearrow










Number 1 ranked archer for years,hell,he may still be.Elbow even with eye.







Doegirl,we don't knowwhat she will achieve yet,elbow even with eye.If the draw was a 1/2" shorter with a shorter releaseand the anchor was raised to get the string back to the corner of the mouth and end of the nose,picture how much better the arrow would be in line with the elbow.




yours truly,nobody ;)just below the eye.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=bViuXcW-rAk

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Archery icon,55 national titles(I believe)and former vegas champ.

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TFOX , if you look at Daves video , he is pretty lined up with the arrow . maybe not dead on , but close , also ancors will vary between a wrist strap ,and a 3-4 finger handheld release .

Pictures do tell a thousand words , and no dening the geys pictures you posted shoot abouve and beyond

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Dave and I both look to be inline with the arrowbut it is the anchor that causes it,NOT the elbow.Well,maybe a combo of the 2.


The elbow is very close to inline with the eye in every picture.Not exact but close.


Braden is using a wrist release and I have a wrist release on inthe second shot in my video.


My main point with the photos is to point out that this goes into the personal preference catagory.

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If she had a higher anchor and a shorter draw,the lower the elbow comments wouldn't have been made imo.


I do reccomend doing both.

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In several of these photos, it looks like the string is being anchored to the left side of the shooter's nose. Is that the case?

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Just one,the rest are on the tip.

Cousins is the only one THAT I KNOWOF that does that,seems to work pretty well for HIM.

The picture of Braden looks like he is but he isn't.

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So the conclusion is that her basic form is pretty good, but most importantly she needs to what is most comfortable and consistant for her. Right?

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Other than the drawlength,the hips and imo,the anchor.The stance is pretty good,little wide but not bad.

The video,had alot going on that differs from the pic.Pic looked pretty good but the video had more to work on.

IMO,working in front of a mirror and trying to get the hips and leaning straightened out will help out loads.


Looking at some of the photos I posted and comparing yourself to them should help also.


The only thing I would caution against is Braden's wrist release form.The form is strictly a target form and is a little stretched out for hunting,imo.The wrist being cocked like it is might be hard for the average person to duplicate also.I have tried it and like it for target but it isn't very naturall.