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Thought I would throw up a pic of my form. Please let me know if you see anything that I might work on.

Thanks

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I am no expert. There are guys on here that know more about this stuff than I do. But what stands out to me, is your drawlength looks a little long.

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If you can post a pic showing your whole body will help. That way we can see you foot placement and if you are leaning.

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You need to have a straight line from your elbow down through your arrow, looks like your wrist is cocked abit. Like mentioned before I think its cause your draw length is a 1/4 maybe 1/2inch long. Other than that it looks pretty good.

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THIS to me looks like youre drawing back with the wrong hand (lol).
As said in the previous replay your draw length is too long and it would give you a more consistant anchoring point as well as straightening up your arm. hows you grouping???

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As stated,even though you have good anchor points with the string in the corner of the mouth and tip of the nose(little back),your anchor looks a little low,making it possible to hit those spots.Your hand looks like it is a bit far back and barely making contact with your face.

If you shortened the draw about a 1/2",you should be able to raise the release hand,maintain those same anchor points(maybe slightly better)and have better contact with your face.

Of course,the peep will need to be moved to accomodate for the change.

For the record,if your release broke at this point in time,it could be an expensive lesson.Nock an arrow for the sake of your bow.;)

Also,loosten the wrist strap,that can cause torque issue.

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I agree with the others except for the length. It's t least one inch too long. If you draw a line straight down from your aiming eye that's about how far back your nock should be. In your case it looks like the front of the nock would end up about where most people drag a kisser button to, the corner of the mouth, and this is quite common. Not good but common.

Wrist sling appears to be a bit tight which can cause some torque. You have a nice loose grip, but too much hand in the grip. You need to turn your wrist out more so you get that palm away from the grip.

The bow arm doesn't look bad. Down and relaxedas it shold be. Shoulder is down. The right side looks good except for that grip.

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I agree you look long on draw , not much , but some . Your release forearm is at the wrong angle , it should be inline with your arrow , horizontaly , and verticaly . Your head is tilted back slghtly , this is due to the long draw issue .

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Thanks so much everyone!!

I just went southpaw about 9 months ago (used to shoot right handed).

I'm definately going to drop into my local shop and see about getting the draw shortened. I am shooting on 29" now but can drop that to 28.5" with this cam and if need be I may buy another cam.

I have been fairly pleased with my accuracy thus far but I knew something just did not feel quite right.

Thanks again for all your comments.

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I just changed the draw from 29" to 28.5" by moving the pin.

WOW! What a difference. My drawing arm came down in line with the line of the arrow and while it was new feeling to me it is quite the positive change!
I'll have to move the peep up a little but hey, no problem.

I'll likely still look into getting another cam as this 65% let-off is quite different and It will take me a while to condition myself to shooting that.

Oh and thanks to TFOX as I knocked an arrow this time and will be lostening my strap.
Thanks!

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Don't be so quick to change cams. Give it some time for your body to adjust to the new feel. I know people like the high letoff, but many knowledgeable archers shoot lower letoff like 65% because it forces them to use their back muscles for aiming,which is the right way to shoot.

Hunters like high letoff, but be aware that it can lead to laziness, meaning not enough holding weight and a sloppy release.

Any time you make a change, such as draw length or weight give you body a couple weeks tobecome accustomed to it. As for draw length, 1/2" too short is much better than 1/4" too long. Especially for a hunting bow (Heavy clothes).

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I cannot beleive it took BG fisher so long to comment on the draw length[8D]

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You better behave yourself, Frank. Go ahead and tell me I'm wrong.

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Hey there guys! I'm a new to the site, and asomewhat seasoned archer. I think BG Fisher hit it right on the nose with "better too short, than long." I have always used the tip of my nose as a 3 point achorgauge. bone to bone thumb and jaw, and the tip of my nose keeps your head in exactly the same position each time....this type of anchor requires raising your peep and lowering your bow to that naturally straight line elbow height to elbow height.....looking at the photo i would say at least a 1/2 inch to long on draw length..... using that release any way... i prefera slightlybentarm holding the bowmyself....better circulation and accuracy was the result for me...Kirk

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I am one of those that prefers to be a 1/4" long than a 1/4" short.

Too short as well as too long can cause left and rights.


I don't get buched up when shooting a little long.

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It seems like if your too short it causes faster fatigue when shooting. One plus about going a tad longer is a little extra speed.

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I would never adjust draw length according to speed,only to accuracy.

I have posted these many times but I have videos of me 1/4 too long,1/4 too short and just right.


Too short by 1/4"

Notice front shoulder.You can't see the release elbow working out on me.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YYwcNVjcjgU



1/4" too long.I am just extended a little too much.Accuracy is good but hard to get the shots to go off like I would like.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=YdXv0cKiFC8



Just right.The draw is the same as the short draw but with longer loop.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=bViuXcW-rAk


I realize I have a bad double set but it is better than it used to be.I also have double jointed shoulders and I feel I do this to ensure the shoulders are in line and I have correct bone to bone contact.

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I wasnt trying to say shooting too long of a draw is better TFOX. I was just simply stating that you get more speed with a longer draw, and if you shoot one thats a tad long like you said you do then you get a little more speed. Speed isnt a bad thing, its actualy a great thing specialy when it happens to come with better accuracy. Like if you are shooting to short ofa draw and increase it a bit, usualy yeilds better accuracy and more speed.;)

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I do agree with you to a point. The problem is that most people are not 1/4" too long but "inches" too long. I think you know wenough about finding one's optimum draw length so all the boes and stuff line up when at full draw. But people don't want to spend the time or are not educated about it enough to find what is optimum for them. And it sure isn't some given measurementbased on one's stature.

I think wingspan measurements are about as close a starting point as any and better than most. Then it really comes down to finding that sweet spot when one is aiming. How many people want to spend this amount of time and brain power?

I just wish that more shops (pro or box stores) would show more care in properly setting people up in the first place.You know. At least get them close. Then again, maybe a lot of them don't know how to. And then there are always those who don't want to be told to shorten up for the fear of losing some speed. You know the ones I'm talking about. They'll buy anything imagineable to cure the ills, but as soon as someone says shorten the draw or turn down the weight they balk at the idea.

Oh well!!!!!!!!!!!!

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That last paragraph says a mouthfull.:D


I am longer than my wingspan measurement even when I am drawing too short.I usually use the wingspan then add a 1/2" and start from there when trying to get someones draw length right.

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Okay folks. Here I am after the 1/2" reduction in draw length. It still may be a little too long but it feels much better. I'm getting used to the increased let-off as well.

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I have been bowhunting for about 12 years now and am still trying to improve my form and my consistency. I pretty consistently shoot 2" groups at 20 and just started shooting out to 40 on a regular basis. I use a peep and a kisser and anchor the knuckle of my pointer finger behind my ear lobe, 3 points. My question to everyone is, should I be using the string on the tip of my nose also? Right now as it stands, if I try to do this, my peep is too high. Any comments would be appreciated. Thanks, John.

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Maybe you don't understand. The peep isn't set in concrete. It can be moved, too.

On the subject of moving things; when I'm helping someone adjust a bow to fit and/or coaching someone there is only one thing that should never be moved. That is the shooter's head once he makes target acquesition (spelling). In other words you get your feet set and then look at the target. When you draw the bow you should draw it to YOU. You should never have to move your head to anchor or aim. Not one bit.

Sometimes this isn't that easy to do. It takes some real nitpicking with draw length, and helps to have lower draw weight, too. Of course, 90% of bowhunters could benefit from lowering the weight anyway.

And don't feel too bad about trying to perfect your form after 12 years. I've been doing it for 35 years and am still far from perfect. In fact, I'm on my way downhill, but never giving up.

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I wasn't too worried about having to move the peep, like you said, its not set in concrete. Do you think that adding another anchor point would help?