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DMP 07-25-2007 05:51 PM

New Arrow Help
 
I just bought a bow and im not sure what arrows to get.

Parker Phoenix 34
60-70#
28" draw length
drop away rest

Im just going to hunt with it. What weight and length arrows do i need for deer hunting. Im not really looking for the fastest but maybe something in the middle of the road. Fast with energy.

nubo 07-26-2007 07:05 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
If your looking at Easton or Beman ,I think you'd be best withthe 340's

nubo

Arthur P 07-26-2007 07:11 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
Carbon Express Terminator Lite Select, 6075.

DMP 07-28-2007 06:45 PM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
The Beman charts are saying 400's instead of the 340's. Any suggestions?

Hey Aussie Guy, what do you suggest as far as the whole arrow setup. Im thinking the 400's at 27 inches with 100grain broad heads.

mauser06 07-28-2007 08:30 PM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
need to know your draw legnth. a bow with 60-70lb limbs can be set from atleast 60-70lbs.

if you arent comfortable drawing 70lbs and you buy arrows spined for 70lbs you will run into spine issues...

find out your draw legnth and arrow legnth and report back for better help...or let the shop do it for you..

good luck....not trying to confuse you...i just dont know any way to shop for arrows and correct spine without arrow legnth and draw weight

we can all guess...but thats not something i like to guess at. poorly spined arrows will cause headaches....i learned my lesson once:D

Redneck Bowhunter 07-29-2007 03:29 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
The correct arrow length is 1'' in front of the rest. Taking this into consideration you have to calculate that when making your selection. Length will affect arrow spine. The 400 rating is only at a given length. Therefore you must go with that suggested weight and play around with draw weight to match it to your arrow spine atthe correctlengtharrow length for your setup.

I am no expert here but this is what I have gathered from otherthreads similiar to this. Maybe someonewith more experience can axpolain it better and more clearly than I.

MDBUCKHUNTER 07-29-2007 06:13 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
Everybody is different. I have seen guys with 2.75" of arrow in front of their rest and I have seen 1/8" of arrow in front of their rests. 1" is a good place to start but you could certainly go shorter if you want to.

I highly suggest downloading the On Target 2 software. It is free during the trial period and you can input every little thing about your setup. It will tell you what arrows, length, etc. to purchase to optimize your rig.

Best of Luck!

Kanga 07-29-2007 07:27 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 

Hey Aussie Guy, what do you suggest as far as the whole arrow setup. Im thinking the 400's at 27 inches with 100grain broad heads.
I am at a buddies house at the moment but when I get home I will run your set up and see what it comes up with.;)


Kanga 07-29-2007 09:45 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
Ok I just ran your info and with the arrow Art mentioned the program came up with the following.

This is based on 70lb draw weight so if you use lower draw weight things will change.

The 6075 @28"with a 100gr head 3x2" Blazers the arrow should be around 452gr's with a FOC of 9.6% and estimated speed of 266fps the spine will be on the marginal stiff side.

DMP 07-29-2007 11:09 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
I downloaded the on target software and if i did everything right the software is telling me that with the bow set at 65# with the draw length at 28" then the Beman ICS Hunter 400shafts at 27" long with a 125 grain broad head will be good. Does this sound right?

273' per second
13.12 FOC
61.81 KE
5.76 GRS/LBS

Kanga 07-29-2007 11:23 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
I came up with.

Arrow weight 418gr's
FOC 14%
Estimated speed 265fps
6.4gr/lb

The above is also with 3x2" Blazers no wrap.

DMP 07-29-2007 12:34 PM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
Aussie, is that to heavy, to slow, or to stiff or is that about good to go?

Kanga 07-29-2007 02:23 PM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
Personally I prefer the FOC to be higher but that arrow is going to get the job done and have a lot of hitting power just incase you hita shoulder;)

DMP 07-31-2007 05:36 PM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
Well the arrows are cut and fletched. I went ahead and used the 400's since I already had them. The chrono says that im shooting them at 255 FPS. I shot a 340 through it to just see what it would do and picked up 12 FPS. Cant complain though, it is stacking them in at 20 and 30yds. I had to back the bow down to 61lbs because of a bad shoulder but hopefully it will get better and I can crank the bow back down. She is also shooting a perfect bullet hole on the paper so im pleased. Now I just have to wack some deer with it.

Straightarrow 08-01-2007 04:21 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
After playing with the OnTarget software for the past week, I'm convinced you cannot get a truely accurate recommendation unless you can manually put in the speed (obtained from an accurate crono) and then adjust the IBO speed until the calculation speed matches the manual speed. Without doing this, program recommendations were way off. It also helps to actually weigh the arrow, especially if you're doing something like added wraps or have fletching that you don't know the weight.

When you add the crono'd speed, be sure to set the program up with the arrow stats for the actual arrow you shot through the crono. Then adjust it for the arrow you'd like to shoot.

DMP, I highly doubt your bow is shooting 273 fps.

DMP 08-01-2007 06:01 AM

RE: New Arrow Help
 
Its not shooting 273 fps. On target told me that it would but after I set everything up and shot it through a chrono it is shooting 255 fps. Not as fast as I would like to see it but I can live with it for now.


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