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Buck_Slayer 07-11-2007 10:00 PM

Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
I went to a local store today and talked to the archery guy for a little while. I ended up splitting a dozen Gold Tip XT Hunters with a buddy. I am shooting a 5575, 28.5" shaft with 2" Blazers with a Blazer Wrap...not a full arrow wrap. just the end of the arrow. and will be using 100 grain tips.

I shoot a 70 pound matthews switchback with a 29" draw length. Does that sound alright or am I cuttin it close?

Buck_Slayer 07-11-2007 10:14 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
P.S. Sorry for my ignorance...

arrows42071 07-11-2007 10:30 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
The Gold tip charts show you should be in a 7595.

Straightarrow 07-12-2007 04:08 AM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
You're not cutting it close. They are clearly too weak.

MDBUCKHUNTER 07-12-2007 10:40 AM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
I am shooting a 70lb SBXT with 5575 GT's, 28.25" arrow on a 29" DL, 100gr. Tip and I am way too weak spined.

I just upgraded my limbs to the 70lbers (used to be 60lbers hence the 5575's)and will be switching to 7595's this weekend. I suggest you do the same.

Pops423 07-12-2007 03:45 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
Pardon my ignorance but what are the issues with weakspined arrows?
Bad arrow flight?

Could the arrow explode?

I guess i'm thinking that it will be faster because of the lighter arrow but I also want to make sure I am safe.

I shoot a 60# Mathews Outback with 5575 GT at 28.5" (i think that's the length.)

Thanks.

Buck_Slayer 07-12-2007 04:28 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
Well that kind of pisses me off. I wonder where he got confused then? He had the gold tip book out and everything.

Buck_Slayer 07-12-2007 04:32 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
now I am confused?? http://www.huntersfriend.com/arrowhe...pine-chart.htm
The chart shows with a 100 grain tip, and both a 28-29" arrow that I am in the 5575?

MDBUCKHUNTER 07-12-2007 05:51 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
Good Rule of Thumb: Don't use somebody elses chart.

http://www.goldtip.com/downloads/2006sizing-chart.pdf

I have you squarely in 7595 territory.

MDBUCKHUNTER 07-12-2007 05:53 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
28.5" arrow length, 70lb draw weight = Group 5

CAA 350
Pro Hunter 7595
XT Hunter 7595
Exp Hunter 7595

Correct spine = 0.340"

Washington Hunter 07-12-2007 06:00 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
This was actually a question discussed at work recently. The corporation has decided to make a proficiency test to be given to people applying for an archery tech position.

One of the questions was multiple choice and went something like this;

A customer comes in with a 70lb. bow with a 29-inch draw length and wants to get arrows. Out of the following list, which would you reccommend;

A) Gold Tip 55/75 Vanes
B) Gold Tip 55/75 Feathers
C) Gold Tip 75/95 Vanes
D) Gold Tip 75/95 Feathers

Now, mind you the person taking the test won't be allowed to see a spine chart, so you would have to answer completely from memory.

Depending on the cam style of your bow, you may be perfectly fine shooting a 55/75 arrow [I.E. single cam vs. Binary/Hybrid cam]. However, if you're shooting a more aggressive style cam, you'll definitely be shooting an arrow that is too weak.

The discussion was brought about because there is more than one answer to the question, as demonstrated above.

MDBUCKHUNTER 07-12-2007 06:07 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
Nice question Wash.

SBXT is considered to be a Single Hard Cam bow.

OT2 shows the spine as being too weak.

Interesting that you bring up vane vs. feathers. Is there any big difference other than weight?

How do feathers vs. vanes stabilize an arrow that is too weak spined or even over spined?

Washington Hunter 07-12-2007 06:15 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
I want to say that there isn't a real difference, MD. It wasn't something we really discussed, but I can tell you that the only time we really reccomend someone shoot feathers is when they're shooting a traditional style bow or are a new archer shooting a prong style rest.

Other than that, we sell mostly vanes.

Buck_Slayer 07-12-2007 07:47 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
Well this sucks...so I pretty much just wasted my money lastnight then?

Buck_Slayer 07-12-2007 07:51 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
If I switch to an 85 grain tip can I use them? Or should I just try to find somebody that is willing to buy them and go for 7595

Buck_Slayer 07-12-2007 08:05 PM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 
nevermind....anybody looking for half dozen 5575 Gold Tip XTs Fletch with blazers, and a blazer wraP?

Straightarrow 07-13-2007 05:08 AM

RE: Is this gonna be an alright set up?
 

Good Rule of Thumb: Don't use somebody elses chart.
2nd Good Rule of Thumb: Don't rely on any chart completely.

Charts are a good starting place, but they do not take into account all variables. It's always better to go with a too stiff arrow. It's relatively easy to weaken it's flight.
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It wasn't something we really discussed, but I can tell you that the only time we really reccomend someone shoot feathers is when they're shooting a traditional style bow or are a new archer shooting a prong style rest.
I'd love to know the reason why. In my opinion feathers can't be beat. Maybe it's because vanes have to be replaced so often - more money for the shop.



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