Help with long range fishtailing
#11
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baltimore Maryland USA
Posts: 1,385
RE: Help with long range fishtailing
Keep what Arthur P said in mind:
Many things contribute to poor arrow flight and most have been covered here already. Definitely spin test the arrows and also check the uniformity of the fletches. We had one customer come in the other day who had some arrows fletched with both straight and left helical on the same arrow.
Offset or helical will definitely help but are not absolutely necessary if the arrows are straight and properly fletched and properly spined.
If the arrow is launching straight off the bow, flying well until it gets 15-20 yards downrange and then starts going crazy, it's not bow tune.
Many things contribute to poor arrow flight and most have been covered here already. Definitely spin test the arrows and also check the uniformity of the fletches. We had one customer come in the other day who had some arrows fletched with both straight and left helical on the same arrow.
Offset or helical will definitely help but are not absolutely necessary if the arrows are straight and properly fletched and properly spined.
#12
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Balt, MD (orig: J-town,PA) The bowels of Hell!!!
Posts: 2,188
RE: Help with long range fishtailing
Agreed to what all these guys are telling you.
I'd like to see the arrow flight of those arrows Len. They'd probably do tricks. How is that possible? Did he loose a fletch and put a new one on differently?
I'd like to see the arrow flight of those arrows Len. They'd probably do tricks. How is that possible? Did he loose a fletch and put a new one on differently?
#13
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Baltimore Maryland USA
Posts: 1,385
RE: Help with long range fishtailing
Dave:
My arrow tech, who is one of the best I've ever seen, called it to my attention when they were brought in for refletching. We asked the customer who had done it and he said it was done at another localarchery shop. Needless to say, he doesn't plan on having them refletch his arrows any more.
Had another neat issue pop up last week. A customer was wondering why his string was stretching so much. Turns out another shop had reserved over 2 broken strands in the string and, on top of that, didn't do a proper center serving tie-off.
Had one crossbow job where the customer bought the parts from me and had his buddy fix the draw cable on aTenPoint Accu-draw. He saved $20 originally but had to bring it back to me to repair the original work done by his buddy and fix the other damage his buddy had caused. Total outlay to me was another $95 andan embarrassed look on his face.
One more good one. I had a customer come by the shop because his sight was falling off. Whe we removed the sight screws we found that the original installer had stripped out boththreaded holes. So that the customer wouldn't know it, they epoxied the holes and the sight surface. It may have worked if the epoxy had been properly mixed. It was still gummy when we got it. Anyway, we got the OK to drill the holes deeper,retap and bottom tap the holes.
I could write a book on some of the things we see in my shop. The reason we see so many of them is that many try to get it done for free by their buddies or another shop is less expensive or closer to them.
My arrow tech, who is one of the best I've ever seen, called it to my attention when they were brought in for refletching. We asked the customer who had done it and he said it was done at another localarchery shop. Needless to say, he doesn't plan on having them refletch his arrows any more.
Had another neat issue pop up last week. A customer was wondering why his string was stretching so much. Turns out another shop had reserved over 2 broken strands in the string and, on top of that, didn't do a proper center serving tie-off.
Had one crossbow job where the customer bought the parts from me and had his buddy fix the draw cable on aTenPoint Accu-draw. He saved $20 originally but had to bring it back to me to repair the original work done by his buddy and fix the other damage his buddy had caused. Total outlay to me was another $95 andan embarrassed look on his face.
One more good one. I had a customer come by the shop because his sight was falling off. Whe we removed the sight screws we found that the original installer had stripped out boththreaded holes. So that the customer wouldn't know it, they epoxied the holes and the sight surface. It may have worked if the epoxy had been properly mixed. It was still gummy when we got it. Anyway, we got the OK to drill the holes deeper,retap and bottom tap the holes.
I could write a book on some of the things we see in my shop. The reason we see so many of them is that many try to get it done for free by their buddies or another shop is less expensive or closer to them.
#14
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Balt, MD (orig: J-town,PA) The bowels of Hell!!!
Posts: 2,188
RE: Help with long range fishtailing
The string one is scary. The rest are just funny. I guess not for the customer though. I'm amazed that shops would do stuff like that.