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MERLIN MAX2000 CENTER SHOT?

Old 12-23-2002, 04:54 PM
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If anyone has a merlin max 2000, i was wondering if anyone could tell me the center shot position measured from the inside of the riser. I just realized that my vanes on my easton 2613 arrows are touching the riser. Also, is center shot usually directly the center of the riser, and/or inline with the limb bolts? If so are there any good gauges available to find this point? One more question, if I am shooting at 50lbs with this max2000, do you think these 2613 arrows at 29" long and 200 grain tips are kinda too big for the bow? I am using it for spot shooting. Chrono said 199fps with these arrows, i dont care about speed but just wanted to toss it in.thanks
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Old 12-23-2002, 06:37 PM
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Tape measure from the face of the riser next to the rest holes out. Centershot will be roughly 11/16-13/16" to center of rest. You may get contact with a 26 diameter with a high-profile vane, but you must admit this is on the edge of extreme as far as size goes. Usually dropping to a lower-profile vane will cure this problem.

My advice is to "can" those overspined logs and shoot an arrow that is correctly spined for your setup. 50lbs is awful light for a shaft like that IMO, altho alot of people try them for their line-catching ability. Your bow will be much more forgiving with a correctly-spined shaft, however! Logs will help you catch a line or two, but IMO you shouldn't be hoping for a "line", you should be focusing on the center of the X, and that is it. Gotta put "line" right out of your mind, otherwise your subconscious will put you there. Speed doesn't matter indoors, but forgiveness does. I personally shoot ACE's or ACC's both outdoors and indoors. I figure if I can get 3-4" groups out to 80 yds with them, they are going to be forgiving enough to work at 20 also. Just my own thoughts, Pinwheel 12

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Old 12-23-2002, 06:50 PM
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Thanks Mr. Pinwheel. I totally agree also with the purpose of the 2613's. I am ditching them, and I have just ordered a set of 23xx's. Still will be wide and stiff, but should be alot more forgiving. Thanks for taking the time!
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Old 12-23-2002, 07:26 PM
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460, My center shot on my Max is set at 11/16. That may not be what yours will measure. You Can set it for 3/4 and then fine tune it out to 40-50 yds with some vertical grouping. Center shot is not limb center. It's the position of your string as it intersects the rest at 90 degrees. There are gauges you can use but you'll still have to fine tune it. Every bow has a sweet spot and add your natual torque and that will be center shot. There's a name for it but I'm not sure. Some of the real techies here will know. Golden Key makes a centering tool and there's another one called E-Z tuning tool. I just line-up my string with the cam grooves and the rest for a rough setting and then fine tune it. As far as your arrow set-up goes. I think that combo is way too stiff. I don't shoot spots but you might as well shoot pool sticks. I didn't know they made a 2613. I been shooting cabon for the last 4-5 years. I think you should be around 2117 or a 2314 with a heavy tip. I didn't know they make a 200 gr. tip. 145-160 is considered heavy. But again I don't shoot spots. Hope this helped. JERRY

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Old 12-23-2002, 07:45 PM
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thanks jerry also. I am getting a 28" 2314 arrow made with 3 3d duravanes, and a 100 grain tip. I am beginning too wonder if it might be to much arrow also. Any recommendations?
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Old 12-23-2002, 08:43 PM
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460, You can use a fat cabon shaft but they will be a little more expensive then aluminum. Though aluminum are straighter then some carbon you'll also get twice the life from a cabon then you will an aluminum. Pinwheel is right when he said to think more on accuracy then line cutting. You have the bow that will give you all the forgiveness and accuracy you can buy so it's just a matter of shoot,shoot and more shooting. I think for your set-up a 2213 will work or a Beman ics 500. There is a lot of good carbon manufactures out there. The closer the straightness and wt tolerences per dozon the more you'll pay. The average shooter won't see a difference between .006 to a .001. I shoot a Carbon Express,3-D Select w/2" feathers for 3-D (cause I'm obcessive)and a 4" feathers for hunting and have no problem with riser contact. The feathers are more forgiving if you do. Hope this helped. JERRY

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Old 12-24-2002, 04:18 AM
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I agree with Jerry, at 50lbs and 29" arrow you would be better to go with a 2213 or 2114 or even a 2312 with correct point weight.(I really don't like to recommend a 12-wall however, too wimpy) 2314 at that length is best-suited for 55-60lbs at that length.

Of course, if it were me, I'd opt for a ACC 3-28. But that's me.

The Bemans, CE's, and and other all-carbons are fine for certain applications and I use them myself for hunting purposes(Beman ICSCH 400) where I don't shoot thousands of repetitive shots. I find the spine doesn't hold up as well as in other materials or combos of, and the first six inches or so will wear quickly in certain backstop material after you pound them with many shots over a given amount of time also, and accuracy suffers in either case so you need to change them up more frequently than you do other shafts made from other materials. (Just my own personal findings) Have fun! Pinwheel 12





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Old 12-24-2002, 06:55 AM
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I would have to agree with everyone that 2613 is way overspined for your setup. I personnally use the 2613, but I also shoot 33" arrows out of a 70 lb bow with 190 grain broadheads. The arrow works fine for my setup, but I don't think it will work well for you. In comparison, I use a 2317 for a 120 grain broadhead (33" length, 70 pound bow).
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