Glue for carbon inserts
 

Hi guys,
I just got a dozen Beeman shafts. First foray into carbons. Anyway, can I glue the inserts in with fletching cement or do I need epoxy?
Sorry if its a dumb question.

Thanks!

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

We use Bohning Power Bond and Goat Tuff at work depending on when the customer is planning on shooting their arrows.

The Power Bond takes a bit longer to dry, but we prefer to use it because it seems to hold quite a bit better.

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

goat tuff works great

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

Lots of stuff works. I like to use hot melt glue. It allows me to remove the insert if I want to change something or to cut the shaft shorter.

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

I used to use a lot of goat tuff, but it seems a bit brittle and if the point hits something hard the points seem to pull loose. Power bond is great if you have time to let it cure and dry, I also really like Gold Tip Tip Grip. I use the GT more often than anything else.

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

I use hot melt myself but I don't recommend it to others since it's so easy to damage a carbon shaft if you do it wrong. (Don't heat carbon!) I've learned through lots of trial and error, and at the co$t of $everal arrow$.

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

Kodiak and others, please see my below post from a few days ago. I'd like to hear some comments. And thanks Yooper for replying.

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

Dude, water boils around 220 degrees, probly hot enuf to soften the hot melt but not enuff to hurt the arrow.

Anyway, I glued them in using instant fletching cement, crazy glue more or less. Maybe I'm nuts but I fletched 3 with 4" shield cut feathers to try out. Any reason not to use feathers on carbon, besides nobody else does?

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

Actually it's 212*F or 100*C, at sea level.

Bob,
For removal; heating the point the way you describe is the way I do it but I'm careful to keep my fingers on the carbon over the insert, if I feel it getting hot I dip it in a handy glass of room temp. water. Warm is okay but if it starts to get uncomfortably warm/hot it gets dunked/cooled. Also, since heat rises, it's wise to hold the shaft tip up while doing this. Never done it with boiling water but I like that idea, I may try it next time.

For inserting; only the glue gets heated and the aluminum insert gets warmed. Never apply direct heat to carbon, and I have a glass of water standing by. As soon as the insert is in, the shaft gets dunked. It's also important not to go overboard with the amount of hot glue.

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

Thanks for the tips Kodiak, I'm going to try it.

RE: Glue for carbon inserts
 

I think I'll use the hot glue from now on since it works & I'm used to it.
I just spent the morning chaseing the threads on my inserts. I put a couple drops of the instant glue around the inside of the shaft, installed the inserts & stood them point down & left them sit. 4 out of the dozen had some glue run into the inserts & dry in the threads.
Took some doing but I took an old field point & made a couple cuts across the threads with my roto tool & used it to clean the threads out.
I supose I used too much glue but I like being able to remove or turn the inserts after installing them.
Learning the hard way is something I do alot. ;)