Drop away and Blazer issues...
 

I was shooting yesterday and noticed that that the metal part on my Nap drop away 2000 has noticeable marks where my blazers are hitting it. I'm assuming that this is some short of tuning issue, but id like to add that my bow is shooting dead on. Any advice that could help stop this issue would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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What metal part r you referring to?
The Prongs?

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The part which the prongs go into. Sorry for not clarifying.

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If it's on the outside where the arrow is pointing I really don't see how that could be a vane hitting it.
None the less, paper tune your bow. That will show any fletching contact right away. Also , check the vanes to see if there are any kind of marks on them. You could also powder test if you don't have access to a paper tuning rack.
I have only seen fletching contact only on the prongs and not on the rest itself.

Do you shoot w/ cock vane down?

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if its the part i think your sayin that the blazers are hitting, and its hitting in the center of that piece, are you shooting with the odd vane straight down? If you are i would try flipping the arrow over so the odd is pointing up instead and see how that works. Thats how i shoot my trophy ridge and no problems at all. You may have to adjust your drop speed to get the vanes to clear the prongs but that should work fine.

Jeremy

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I shoot blazers also and was having problems with them clearing my QAD Ultra rest. Couldnt shoot cock vane straight up because not enough clearance from my cables, but vanes were hitting the rest when it was completely down. Just goes to show you that reading the directions helps, there was another launcher in the package that is an 1/8 taller and solved the problem. Made me feel pretty dumb for not reading the directions.

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I believe that NAP was designed for Cock vane down.
If you flip it around the oyher 2 vanes don't have clearence of the prongs.

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Yea i have the cock vane down. The arrow in the picture is just showing the peice i was talking about not where the contact is being made. The contact is being made in the center where the vane would go through the prongs. I agree with archer58. I think the cock arrow is supposed to be down for this model.

I forgot to add that bow is perfectly paper tuned and has a bullet hole when shot through the paper.

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Well if you are having contact issues your bow is not "perfectly" tuned. The paper is lying to you. You will either have to adjust the timing of your rest or raise your nocking point so the fletching clears your rest. It clearly is not getting away in time.

The rest should come to the full up position in your last inch of draw, right before you hit the wall. If it is coming up before that it is coming up too soon the rest is in contact with the arrow too long. This would defeat the purpose of having a drop a way.

Rest contact and blazers are a BAD thing. They are so stiff they have no forgiveness at all. If you can't fix it I suggest going to feathers, they can hit stuff and have very little effect on arrow flight.

Paul

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No problems here with using the BLAZERS from my RIPCORD reston my SWICHBACK XT

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I agree w/ Paul.
Your timing and/or the launcher height needs to be adjusted.
I'm thinking to time a quicker fall and raise the launchers a little at a time. I'd start w/ the timing.
When you draw, the launcher should pick up the arrow about2-3 inches from the tip. That should give adequate clearence.
If you're timing is correct then go to launcher height AND turn your nocks just a hair away from the direction of theside where the vane is contacting it.

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Some dropaway rests work fine with aluminum arrows,but they don't drop fast enough when shooting carbons.I solved all my problems by getting a Muzzy Zero Effect for my 03 legacy and I will never use anything else again,they are driven down by a rigid adjustable arm and have a huge arrow resting prong so you can shoot any diameter arrow you like, and i've never had any fletching hit, and quite honestly I don't think they ever could.

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Thanks, Paul and Archer58! I'll try adusting it myself and if i still dont have any luck i'll take it into the shop to get tuned. Thanks again!

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You can have contact issues with muzzy rests if they are not set up correctly, I have delt with it before. I think the Muzzy offers more control for timing issues though. You also have to get the right model for your bow.

It used to be they didn't work very well on bows that didn't have much cable guard travel, now they have a quicker acting model for those bows.

I have tried a few drop a ways and I personally like the muzzy the best.

Paul

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At what part of the draw, do the prongs come up. If they come up to early they stay up longer and that might be your problem. I think i set mine to come up about the last 5to6in of draw. Hope this helps. Rich

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I think the problem is the rest is to close to the shelf.If the prongs are sitting to far up on the shelf the block will be at to much of an angle making it higher than the shelf not providingadequet clearence.The proplem with the 2000 is the mounting arm is to short for BT's.To fix this i used to use the mounting arm from the older nap 1000 it was longer and allowed the block to lay flat with the prongs just touching the shelf this would provide enuff clearence.

If you can post a pic i will tell you for sure!

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I believe you are right. I will try to post a pic tomorrow, but i need to go to bed now cuz i have a 3d shooti in the morning. Thanks for the help.
Matt

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Are your Blazers hitting like this?



I had the same problem and could not get it to go away. I switched rests and the problem was solved.

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That's a launcher height problem.
The angle needs to be moved up AND the arrow rotated to the right for clearence.
The charactistic of blazer's is the quick rotation once they leave the string.
It may appear the cock vane being straight down will give clearence , but won't due to rotation.
It may also be that your nock was low.

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If you shoot cock vane down you might want to get some smaller vanes, bohning makes a great low profile vane in 4 inch and blazers.

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I had the same problem with with last 2 bows doing the same thing with the same rest and haven't got it figured either. arrow groups are great but don't like the idea of contact.

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Many pepole , myself included are not happy with the ripcoard/qad , and have moved on , Id sugest looking at the limbdriver , by vaportrail ,,, or the wahmy , by spothog . I tryed with both launches provided by qad to get clearace , to no availe , and it was not a tuning issue , it was a poorly designed rest issue .

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Try moving your nock point and launcher up about 1/8". This may put your arrow a little above the center of the berger button, but it will have no effect on performance. What it will do is allow you to set your rest up to raise higher during the draw, thus giving you more clearance when it drops on the shot.

Many.....many....bows need to be set up this way. The center of the berger button is not a hard fast standard.