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hallj86 03-10-2007 09:40 AM

Rest Questions?????
 
I am currently shooting a wb, but my arrows are getting chewed up. I was thinking about switching to a drop away. I have heard that the accuracey of the drop away is a lot better than that of the WB. The main reson I love my WB is the stability of the arrow when you moving the bow around unting is there any rest that solve both problems.????

tschammel 03-10-2007 09:43 AM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 
Just put some blazers on. Don't use feathers if you don't want them chewed up. Blazers are the new best thing try them.!!

hallj86 03-10-2007 09:48 AM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 
I also want to know about the accuracey issue????


Paul L Mohr 03-10-2007 10:06 AM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 
There is no one rest that is more accurate than another. There are some that are a bit more forgiving than others, but not much to be honest.

There are several threads on the WB rest and how to modify or tune it so your arrows go through it better. If you can do a search for them and try some of the tips.

I personally don't care for the WB type rests because of the way they adjust. I don't like the cheap prong rests for the same reasons. That doesn't mean they are a bad rest though. Any rest if tuned properly should work about the same.

If you want the most forgving rest get a prong style rest, put a blade launcher on it and shoot feathers. I also have good luck with the Bodoodle style rests.

I used to think equipment mattered until I saw some guys that could shoot recurves using fingers, off the shelf, wooden arrows and no sights that could shoot better than I could. No I am in the mind set that it is not so much what you bolt on the bow, but what you do with it. The latest craze in archery or newest gizmo probably is not going to make you a better archer. YOU are going to make you a better archer.

I would agree with the above though, get some blazer or other fairly stiff vanes and put a slight offset them. You should be good to go then. And again, try to find some tips on setting up and tuning the rest you have. When set up properly they are fine rest, especially for hunting off the ground. If set up wrong they can be noisy and wear your fletchings pretty fast.

My opinions anyway.
Paul

hallj86 03-10-2007 03:45 PM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 
by slight offset you mean a helical pattern or something else I am looking at getting a jig to fletch my arrows and was trying to decide the set i want.

rnj420 03-11-2007 09:46 PM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 
THINK ABOUT THE RISISTENCE THE WB PUTS ON THE ARROW,(ABOUT 20-30 FPS!!!).. I LIKE THE DROP AWAY WITH A RUBBER HOLDER THAT HOLDS THE ARROW AT ANY ANGLE TILL ALMOST FULL DRAW

slicksvt 03-11-2007 11:11 PM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 
I had been using a WB for a while but switched to a Bodoodle rest still holds arrows good as is very accurate and I noticede an increase in speed.

BGfisher 03-12-2007 07:29 AM

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ORIGINAL: rnj420

THINK ABOUT THE RISISTENCE THE WB PUTS ON THE ARROW,(ABOUT 20-30 FPS!!!).. I LIKE THE DROP AWAY WITH A RUBBER HOLDER THAT HOLDS THE ARROW AT ANY ANGLE TILL ALMOST FULL DRAW
Not so! Plenty of tests have shown that the WB causes anywhere from 2-7 fps loss in speed. Nothing near 20-30 fps. There has to be some speed loss. There is friction involved.

That being said I do not and will not use a WB for my own reasons. One of them being the potential for less accuracy. Not that the rest is less accurate, but that because the arrow is held in place during the shot the shooter must have a good follow through until the arrow completely leaves the bow, whereas with a conventional shoot-through or shoot-around rest the bow can move a little without affecting the course of the arrow.

Proponents of containment rests often use the analogy that they could shoot the bow while standing on their heads or with the bow upside-down. Probably true, but when was the last time you ever heard or saw anybody shooting a bow standing on their head??????????


Ed McDonald 03-12-2007 10:48 AM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 

ORIGINAL: rnj420

THINK ABOUT THE RISISTENCE THE WB PUTS ON THE ARROW,(ABOUT 20-30 FPS!!!)..
Bogus !!!!!!!!!!!!

hallj86 03-12-2007 10:48 AM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 
I like the idea of the arrow staying in the rest when i an walking into my stand or just have the bow sitting at my side. When i pick it up with a WB i dont have to worry about the arrow falling or moving makeing noise which a deer would hear. Is that a drop away that sloves that problem???

Paul L Mohr 03-12-2007 02:26 PM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 
If you are losing that much speed with a WB it is set up WAY wrong.

Paul

solocamjosh 03-12-2007 05:00 PM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 
I havent been a member for that long, but I have seen this argument many times already, and the points are always very good, but if you did a poll I think that you would get about 50/50 on WBvs. dropaway. I think whatever gives you the most confidence to make a clean kill is the right rest for you.

BGfisher 03-13-2007 07:49 AM

RE: Rest Questions?????
 

ORIGINAL: hallj86

I like the idea of the arrow staying in the rest when i an walking into my stand or just have the bow sitting at my side. When i pick it up with a WB i dont have to worry about the arrow falling or moving makeing noise which a deer would hear. Is that a drop away that sloves that problem???
There are several drop aways that have some sort of loop that contains the arrow, but does not hold it right on the rest. I think Schaffer is one and there are others.

One thing I would like to caution you on is the idea of walking to your stand or otherwise walking around with a hunting arrow on the string. Don't do it!! Don't know how long you've been at it, but you only have to slip or fall, or maybe step over a log one time and slice your leg one time, hitting an artery, and you ain't making it home anymore. Is this the price you might want to pay for a, maybe, one time shot in your lifetime? It's not worth it----never. Of course you can go into denial and say it would never happen to you, but.....

hallj86 03-13-2007 08:43 AM

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Ok I should rephrase that I dont do it walking up to my stand. There is a creek valley by my parents in major farmlands of Wisconsin. I mean you can find 20-30 deer held up in one 40 plot of woods if it is even a 40. I walk the top of the ledge with arrow set in a field and shoot the deer in the valley I got a lot of deer doing this since its a superhigway for them. I cant put a stand up because they farm said no. I dont know why he lets me walk it and shot them without a stand but whatever it works.

And for the second question about WB speed loss

I shoot a tomkat and I just got the trophy take drop away and didnt even get 1 fps increase from my bow so for my case it didnt help. But the big thing is my groups. Holy cow night and day difference at 35 yards i put 4 arrows in the 12 spot in one round hitting them together. I am sold with the increase in accuracy. I have never shot that great of groups with the WB to keep 4 arrows within a 2 inch circle at 35 yards is amazing. I am going to shoot my first scored round today and I will let you know what my score it.



ijimmy 03-13-2007 09:33 AM

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One of the drawbacks to the WB is the noise it makes while drawing the arrow , with some arrows its= is quiet noticeable , Ive been busted by that sound by an allert doe on a calm mourning , thats the day it came off . For stalk hunting it is a great rest IMO , It does give some strange tuning results .

hallj86 03-13-2007 02:37 PM

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Wow I shot my best ever I got a 298/360 with 10 12spots an 9 10spots. I am sold on the drop away.


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