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cherokee_outfitters 01-27-2007 05:34 AM

80# bows and up?
 
I know I'm gonna hear you don't need an 80# bow for speed. But i'm not an overdraw or carbon shooter. I had a bow that was a 70 to 90# and I really liked the preformance using heavier aluminums with it, only problem it was to long a draw length.

My question is what bow companies and what model of bow is outthere that is 80# or above peak weights? I've been looking and the only one I can find is the PSE big five or big five pro, any others?

Thanks

OHdeerguts 01-27-2007 06:02 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
I don't know of any compound bows out there, but I betcha some trad guy could build ya a long bow that the hulk would have trouble pulling:D. good luck

Matt/TN 01-27-2007 06:43 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
ive heard of 100# bowtechs, check ebay

Idaho Elk Hunter 01-27-2007 07:15 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
The Bowtech Tribute can be ordered with 80, 90 and 100 lb limbs but no warranty on the 90 & 100's

Elkcrazy8 01-27-2007 07:34 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
I know bowtech does. A guy I know has one that is 120 lbs, I don't know if it was a special order or not. He took down a 6,000 lbelephant and hippo with it a couple of years ago.

Paul L Mohr 01-27-2007 07:54 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
I believe bowtech and Mathews both offer bows above 70 lbs. Darton might custom build you one if you wanted. There might be some other companies that would do it as well.

My personal opinion is you would probably shoot better with a slower bow that was easier to draw but I'm not you.

Paul

TFOX 01-27-2007 11:38 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
HOYT

Vectrix
Vectrix XL
38 Pro
38 Ultra
Vulcan
Trycon
Avenger
Ultra Elite xt 3000
Ultra Elite xt 2000
Pro Elite xt 3000
Pro Elite xt 2000

All are available up to 80#'s ;)

You will most likely have to order one because very few shops will stock 80# bows anymore because they just don't sell.

cherokee_outfitters 01-28-2007 06:57 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
Thanks for the information guys. Hey elkcrazy8 dreaming of next year already huh?

Paul I agree 100% with what you said. I do shoot better with lighter draw weight.

But I like kinetic energy that the aluminums produce and I like speed so I have the dilemia of wanting a heavier bow. I had a Clearwater Archery bow that was a 70-90 but the draw was too long and no more adjustment.So Iadjusted myself to shoot the bow. It would fly a 30" xx78 2317 at 290 fps and I couldn't get my sight pins close enough to have 20 30 40 50 60 yd pins. My First pin started at 20 and the last of five ended at 66yds. My 40 yd groups were inside 3" circle, not competition class but huntable with the heavy bow. Only draw back I ran into using the heavy bow is trying to draw in a very ackward position or hold for more than 30seconds if the animal stopped. But that bow only had 55% let off. So I'm thinking todays bows are alot more in tune to being able to hold for awhile. I'm here to learn I'm no bow expert so my mind is open for suggestions.

We don't have a decent archery shop within driving distance to go and try out new bows. It's pick one and pay for the education.

TFOX 01-28-2007 10:19 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
You could split the difference and go with an aluminum/carbon arrow.The Full Metal Jacket 300 weighs 11.6 gr per inch. and packs quite a punch.You coud shoot that at 70# and keep all your accuracy and be better prepared for the off angle shot.You could be easily around 525 grains with vanes and a 125 grain point(with a 28" arrow).Drop to feathers and 100 grain points,you would be around 472 grains.That would keep your energy high and speed respectable.(not to mention the availability of the bows and resale )


I know most don't actually understand speed but believe when I say it is way overrated.There is a difference when adding 10# as you like to do but it is very minimal,especially for a hunting situation.The big difference you will notice is energy but when you get as high as you are,I don't think the energy is a big help either,you can only penetrate the ground so far before you won't be able to find your arrow.;)

Unless you are hunting elephant such as Elk's friend,I don't think I would concern myself with it.







Phil from Maine 01-29-2007 04:46 PM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
I use a Bear/Jennings bow that set at 85 lbs. I am very happy with the results. I use heavey weight arrows and broad heads for better control so I am not shooting for long distances. But, when they hit they hit, a very hard hit indeed. To long a draw length? Mine was to short so I had it adjusted at the bow shop when I bought it. A good bow shop should be able to adjust the lenght on it somewhat, but, your draw might change a little. Good Luck to you.

BigJ71 01-29-2007 04:49 PM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
Ross offers 80lb limbs now too.

killzonearchery 01-30-2007 08:28 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
I have never even heard of a 80 our 90 pound bow.

DJC2 01-31-2007 07:42 PM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
I used to shoot a Pearson Ultra that was 86 pounds. And I only hunted whitetails with it!!! Kinda dumb now that I look back on it. Guess I wanted bragging rights or something.Anyway, maybe Pearson still offers something with this poundage.

Dan


kvD9b4 02-01-2007 10:49 AM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
PSE has several in their upper end bows that can be ordered with over 70 lbs. of draw weight. They arent high production models, because there aren't very many people that shoot over 75 lbs.Most bow makers don't make a heavy bow due to low market demand.

I have owned a couple of PSEbows that I shot at 85 lbs. Talk about penetration!!!The foam target I have ismade out of the same foam as taxidermy forms. The target is 2 feet thick and the ACC shafts tipped with 100 grain Thunderheads would go completely through and still penetrate 3/4 ofan inch into an apple tree ten feet behind the target.You gotta love a heavy draw weight bow ;) They sure are hard to draw on those cold mornings with a big critter standing in front of you ;) Flinch

Rob/PA Bowyer 02-01-2007 12:09 PM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
My local Hoyt shop, a good friend of mine ordered #80 lb limbs on his last years Trykon, they were special ordering him some 90 lb limbs for his African adventure. I understand he was going for an elephant.

I admire your want for the poundage for big aluminums and although I could handle 80 lbs as well, I can't see burning up a shoulder on repeative shooting. Good luck with and let us know how you make out. I'm sure if you choose a bow, that manuf. will get you into the limbs you want, also, there are ways to tweek them.

tglide1 02-02-2007 12:32 PM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
Goto PSE sight and look up the Gorrilla Squad - they all shoot 100-120 lbs. These guys are freaking crazy - their bows explode on a regular basis

cherokee_outfitters 02-02-2007 07:27 PM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
I've asked a friend Elkcrazy8 to guide me into my next bow. If he thinks it's a good hunting bow then I bet I'd be mighty happy with it. I like KE of the big bows but shot placement is what it's all about. I'm learning slowly, haha.

TFOX 02-02-2007 07:38 PM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
Elk knows his stuff,he won't steer you wrong.We have been doing alot of communicating through pm's also.

RWK 02-02-2007 08:24 PM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
Shooting a heavy bow, down the line you will be sorry. 15 to 20 years the arms wo'nt work like they should. Believe me i no. Rich

Elkcrazy8 02-02-2007 08:43 PM

RE: 80# bows and up?
 
KE


Hunting Usage



< 25 ft. lbs.


Small Game



25-41 ft. lbs.


Medium Game (deer, antelope, etc.)



42-65 ft. lbs.


Large Game (elk, black bear, wild boar, etc.)



> 65 ft. lbs.


Toughest Game (Cape Buffalo, Grizzly, etc.)


I would say get the most shootable bow that meets or exceeds these numbers. Broadhead and arrow selection goes hand in hand with these numbers and shouldn't be overlooked.... You should be able to find everything that you are looking for in todays 70#bows. For fixed head flight I like to be in the 260 range. In a hunting bow, I want the same qualities as I take out on to the target range. One that will put an arrow in there every time...............

Due to increasing pains I dropped down to a 65 lb bow and am shooting a 427 grain arrow at 257 fps. I am generating 63 foot pounds, plenty for elk with a cut on contact head. I want to enjoy many more years of hunting and felt that taking it easy on my body would help. I shoot 3-4 nights a week religiously and the heavy poundage begins to add up over time!!! Just something to consider.

Just a note:If you are shooting a 30 inch aluminun which my guess would be in the 530 grain range at 290 fps, that would give you 99 ft lbs of ke.


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