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Campo 12-16-2006 08:15 PM

New Fuse Strings....
 
I have been shooting my Vectrix for a week now, and have close to 200 arrows through it (I know, I need to shoot more). Anyway, today I went to the shop to tune her proper now that she is all broken in. Once I was there, I nocited the serving on the cables was starting to seperate. Almost like the problem that Mattews had last year, where the buss cable rolls over the cam, it is cutting into the serving. I didnt see any sharp spots, so I think it is just the torque placed on the serving as it rolls over.
We also had to play with the nock point, and when we untied the loop, we saw that the serving had seperated there too. Then, after more inspection of the cable ends, we noticed that alot of the serving, particularly over the sharp bends, was seperating.
Anyway...I am no expert, but my coach also noted that the quality of the string seemed inferior. I had heard thatFuse reworked their string manufacture process this year, but I dont see any improvement.
Gibblet, check your pm...:D

mobow 12-16-2006 10:36 PM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
I agree, Fuse strings are the weakness of the Fuse line, IMO...Hoyt just needs to go all out and use Winner's Choice or Vapor Trail...maybe gibblet could get a big time deal w/ Hoyt and make all their strings.... And to think, Fuse redid their strings this year because they secretly had problems with them LAST year...I don't think they are any better, but that's just me.

I'll also be ordering some gibblet strings in the next week or so.....Christmas for my kids is a little more important right now, but they're comin!

gibblet 12-17-2006 07:10 AM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
the part i didn't get was they said they had re-machined their string making facility, and the machines were never the problem. when you don't even know which direction to serve the string, that's more important than what machine you use.


ok, BURN (in string maker world - that was a burn), and i only do it because of all the crud fuse has talked about their strings. remember the huge advertising last year?

ash2042 12-17-2006 08:17 AM

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It seems hoyt and mathews should stay away from the sting making business. Very rarely do you here anything good about their strings.
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PABuck_HNTR 12-17-2006 06:00 PM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
I hear ya...Bowtech has some good strings though

TFOX 12-17-2006 06:20 PM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
Gibblet,I had my string maker,whom also happens to be a level 4 coach explain to me they don't serve them properly also.


He guestimated that it was for a reason,we both know you should serve in the same direction as the twist butmost manufacturers do one end with the twist and the other end against the twist.He stated that he thought it had to do with how much strings get untwisted and twistedto fit certain draw lengths and it would actually be a benefit not to have all the serving going with the twist to keep it all from coming undone.


My theory is it is a production problem and no one wants to take the extra time to serve it properly.


I actually emailed Hoyt a few years ago and told them they needed to serve with the twist but got no response.:eek:


It really doesn't make any sense why they can't do it right. Other than cost.

gibblet 12-18-2006 03:19 AM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
you can't get away w/ serving a section wrong. you may be able to get away w/ it until the weather gets cold on a single cam string, but never on a dually, hybrid, or binary. it makes the peep go crazy on shorter strings, and on long single cam ones - all may look well until it gets cold - and then your peep will be pointing the wrong way by about a quarter turn.

BowHuntND 12-18-2006 05:28 AM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
I bought a Used hoyt and the strings on it looked in pretty good shape. They were tan and brown (not sure of the importance there). But when I picked out the bow my brother told me to get Vapor Trails instead of those stock strings. He has shot vapor trails for the last 3 years and loves them. I thought they were just a thing up here until someone mentioned them in this post. I have had mine for almost a year now and as long as I keep them waxed they look brand new. I am very impressed with them.

ijimmy 12-18-2006 06:03 AM

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The last hoyt I owned came with awefull srtings , the cabels had maybe 3-4 twists over their hole length .

With the money you pay for hoyt , and mathews , you would think they could put a decient string on them.

Bowtech , and Pearson , definately get points for putting great quality strings on their bows from the factory .

gibblet 12-18-2006 06:07 AM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
ijimmy, did you see the pearsons are coming w/ floating yokes?

ijimmy 12-18-2006 06:13 AM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
Ill have to look ,gibblet , Ive been shooting a passion for a few months , but didnt look at that , Ive been very happy with pearson , they make some nice bows . They have a grip I can live with .

TFOX 12-18-2006 07:53 PM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
I reread my post and it was a little cofusing.

My stringmaker doesn't think it is a benefit to have the serving going in a different direction than the twist.


His theory was that the manufactures might THINK it was a benefit on a production bow because so many start twisting and untwistingon there strings and cables when they start trying to tune and setup their bows.


I don't think that is the case.I believe it is time and production cost,and plain old laziness.[&:]

Shootem up870 12-18-2006 08:08 PM

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really the best thing to do when you need new cables/strings is go to your local proshop and have their string guy make some custom pre-stretched strings. most proshops can do this, i know we do and they are the best. everything is hand made to perfection. a big plus over strings made by machine.

gibblet 12-19-2006 05:22 AM

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ORIGINAL: Shootem up870

a big plus over strings made by machine.
lol, you haven't seen my serving machine.

nodog 12-19-2006 04:11 PM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 

ORIGINAL: gibblet


ORIGINAL: Shootem up870

a big plus over strings made by machine.
lol, you haven't seen my serving machine.
Got a bow for my kid the other day and it has a competetors strings on it. Your job is secure.:D

drstalker 12-19-2006 05:29 PM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
The last two Hoyts I have owned,I took my strings off shortly after a few shots and build my own BCY 450's.I had one break on my first Hoyt(1999 or 2000)Havoc.

gibsonhoyt 12-22-2006 09:48 AM

RE: New Fuse Strings....
 
I just got a Hoyt Vectrix and I have well over 200 shots through it and I can not see any problems in my strings....yet. I did have a Fuse string leach blow up on me already. I will keep my eye on the strings now. My old hoyt Impulse lasted good it still has the original string on it, I wax it all the time but looks great. Maybe I got lucky with my vextrix and I got the best string in the batch!:D


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