Whisker bisket slows down arrows
 

I was reading a post by a guy that was talkin about the whisker bisket, and he stated that it slows the arrow down by about 10 fps. I was just wondering if this is true, i have one and i love the thing i dont have to worry about the arrow fallin out.

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wrong forum you would be better off asking in the archery tech forum

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whoops sorry is there anyway i can get it moved???

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the WB def slows it down, but my bow shoots 210 fps, and i have shot alot of deer with it, so i dont think its really a big deal. but the major advantage of the WB is you never need to worry about the arrow falling off, no matter how hard you're shaking.

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Yeah, it will slow the arrow down but I have found it to be about 2-3fps nothing to worry about.

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i think it dosent slow them down!!! but still ask the archery tech dude person, or it might depend on if the arrows are allmunim or carbon arrows!!

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I would say 10 fps is about right. I had one on my bow and was shooting about 298fps I took it off and changed to a ripcord dropaway and went to about 311-315. I also did some other things that made a difference but I would say 10 is about right. Of course if you are talking 240fps then the difference would be less I would think.

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It must slow it a little but not a lot. It's barely noticeable.

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The amount that it slows an arrow will vary depending on the setup and arrow configuration.

If you're shooting fat aluminums with a big helical twist on vanes, then you might see something in the 10-15 fps loss. If you have small diameter arrows with straight or slightly offset fletching, then you probably will fall in the 1-4 fps loss range.

I've experimented with many different setups on the WB and have found the following. If the biscuit is too tight, speed loss will be greater. The rest is designed to be shot with the bristles only touching the arrow on the bottom when the bow is drawn. Mine are always setup very loose - you might say sloppy.

I've actually tried to see how little speed loss I could get out of one, so I made the following modifications. I trimmed the back of the biscuit, so approximately 30% of the bristles were removed. I then cut slots for the vanes to pass through (this was on a target arrow with slightly offset vanes ). This involved removing all the bristles in three 1/2" sections of the rim. When shooting this setup through a crono, it was 1 fps FASTER than a traditional 2-prong rest. By the way, the WB shot great this way and I used it for a full year, but it did wear out faster.

Bottom line - the speed loss is insignificant for hunting. If you don't want to use it for hunting, pick a different excuse.

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How about the fact that they are loud. Pulling the arrow through them is way to loud in my opinion. That, coupled with the speed loss and the bulkiness is the reason I chose to get rid of mine. I believe that if a person would go to a dropaway they would never think about using a WB again.

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This has been discussed at length here too, and it has been found that some arrows casue more noise than others. I went from the original WB to a drop away back to the new WB. Not dissapointed!

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So why did you change back to a WB? Not trying to start an arguement, just curious.

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Honestly, I can't find any reason to not use the WB. Actually I sold my bow that had my drop rest on it, I already had the orginal WB, so all I had to buy to get my new bow shootable, was the new and imporved QS biscuit, not the whole assembly. I also was planning on switching to blazer vanes at the same time, which are great through the WB., so there ya have it. I liked the drop zone, BUT I can't find a fault with the WB. I'm not a competition shooter, which is where I think the drop zone, or other drop rests,would be the best choice.

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Good enough for me!

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i use a biscuit and when your talking about speed your right, but the versatility is endless. Its just one less thing to worry about in my oppinion!!
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good luck and God speed;)

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Thisis very important if you want a quiet rest that won't damage your vanes (even the cheapest of vanes). I shoot Beman ICS 340 Camo Hunter carbon arrows and I use a x-large opening. My arrow fitsloose only resting on the black bristles.I have found only about a 2-3fps loss in arrow speed. This set up is very quiet on the draw and does not damage my vanes.

It's IMHO the best hunting rest on the market today.

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Fast loading , solidhold on arrow for stalking( I know nit spose to walk around with arrow nocked), and durable piece of hunting gear . Accurate enough to hit the sweet spot , and so easy to maintain. Only real serious draw back may be it freezing up in the snow???

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None of mine have been loud, but then again, it has to be setup correctly. Since hunting with one on my bow, I've drawn back on approximately 40 deer and not one has reacted in any way to my draw. Most of these were inside 15 yards.

As for the dropaway rests, you couldn't pay me to hunt with one. Moving parts, and cords to get caught on branches - way too many possibilities for failure for me to put one on my bow. I'm hauling my bow up trees in the dark, while hunting thick undergrowth. The chances of those things getting hung up is pretty darn high in my situation.

I once put a Muzzy dropaway on my bow. I think it doubled the bow weight. I took it off without even shooting an arrow. Every rest has it's negatives. For me, as a hunter, the WB has the least. Most of the perceived problems are operator error or a need for a slightly different setup. Anyone who chooses to get rid of a rest because it costs them 3 fps, is making a decision I can't even comprehend.

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The bigger the helical on the arrow and the more effect they have on speed. In my opinion speed is overated the faster these bows get the harder it is to get your broadheads to fly good especially fixed bades

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I shoot at Carolina QS WB and love it! I have not shot a drop away but I have to agree with the statement of getting the cord caught on limbs and such when hunting. I have never had any noise or problems with mine and I only lost 2-3 fps, I am also very hard on my hunting equipment and it has held up. I am looking at getting a new Vectrix XL and I will be putting a new WB on it!

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I guess I am in the minority then. But after going to the Ripcord I saw just how big of an improvement it made. As far as hitting the cord on something. If you are in that thick of brush drawing your bow back then you probably shouldn't be shooting. If you could tell the difference in the weight of your bow by adding a dropaway, you must have the lightest bow in the world.

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Well this thread could go on forever........back and forth, back and forth. I used the WB for the first time this season. I can say yes, it may have slowed my arrow down a bit (not enought to matter though), however, it silenced my bow more than anything else. I don't know what it is but this year the deer I have killed have not moved at all after release of the arrow. They usually have that little duck and run a 1/8 of asecond or soafter release as is shown on several videos in slow motion. Not this year though. As a result of their little duck and run routine in the past, I have grown accustomed to aiming slightly lower. Well this year I've done the same thing (aim low)and the arrow hits where I aim with no movement from the deer whatsoever. It doesn't make much difference in the amount that I aim low but I directly relate the deer not moving tothe silenceing of my bow andto the WB as that was the only variable I changed this year on my setup.

Bottom line is just as with anything else in hunting. Pick your gear and become proficient enough with it to take care of business in the field without any apprehension whatsoever. If there is something you don't like about your setup or something bothers you,CHANGE IT,so that when themoment of truthcomesandyou have to use ityou won't be thinking about whether or not you're going to hit where you aim or whether or not you should have gotten rid of the WB for the Rip Cord. If you're really worried about the drop in 3-10 fps by using the WB, well............ I can't answer that one. All I know is that I'll sacrifice 3 fps or so in order to have a virtually silent bow. Sorry for the rant but since everyone else is jumping in I guess I'll get my feet wet too. Take care!

VA

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Well said VA5326

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Your WB made your bow more silent! Carolina Archery should market the WB as a sound dampener now I guess. That is honestly the first time I have ever heard someone say it made their bow more quiet. Some people say theirs doesn't make any noise, but I never thought it would actually be considered an aid.

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I didn't say "a dropaway". I said, "a Muzzy dropaway". Have you ever picked one up? It probably weighs as much as 5 whisker biscuits.


I've heard that said a hundred times. It depends on what they were shooting before they made the switch. There are times when I'm standing next to someone shooting a dropaway and it sounds like someone is whacking their bow with a stick when they shoot. Sometimes they put a pad on the arrrow shelf to help silence it, and it sounds like someone whacking a pad on a bow, with a stick. I'm looking at them thinking "They're going to hunt with that?", and they're thinking it's the next best thing to sliced bread. :eek:

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With all the talk about the WB slowing down an arrow, are there any numbers that state how much a helical and/oroffset slows down an arrow vs a vane that is straight fletched disregarding what it is shot thru? Aerodynamics (only big word I know) would state that there would be more drag with an offset or helical thus producing a slower arrow. I know the idea behind hunting would be accuracy. Just curious.

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Dont know numbers but the animals I've hit with my right helical , WB havent said much:DThe set up works

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I have tested them I found that they are loud on certain brands of carbon arrows !! no real noise that I noticed w/ aluminums though. Use a litlle corn starch or talcum powder on them wisker. Helps quiet it down w/ less friction.