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Rangeball 11-14-2002 01:23 PM

Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
Suppose you walked into a virtual smorgasborg of bow parts from every manufacture and could pick and choose specific components that when assembled would fit your criteria for the perfect bow (since we're dreaming, assume the geometry would all work perfectly). What would you choose?

Ok, I'd go with a longer reflexed riser similar to many companies today, but made of carbon with the emphasis on shock absorbtion and not lighter overall mass weight, would weigh the same as a comparable machined aluminum riser. Overall mass weight of the bow would be around 3# 4oz...

I'd go with the new Merlin limbs, and Winner's Choice strings and cables. Limb design would be more parallel, and brace would be about 8.5".

Cams would either be smooth drawing dual or hybird CPS type system, with a split yoke cable system, or possible have the cables attach outside the limb yoke for an automatic split. Cables go straight up and down to each cam, if that makes any sense.

Grip would be slim, like the current Diamond grip, which feels great in my hand, narrow throat and laminated camowood sideplates, using part of the riser for the grip.

IBO would be 350ish, and overall ATA would be 30-34". Camo would be the new Harwoods HD, with the autum bronze limb pockets.

I'd buy that bow in a heartbeat. What about you?


silentassassin 11-14-2002 03:58 PM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
I had a thread similar to this last year entitled the perfect bow(or something to that effect). Anyway, it was kinda scary because a couple of months after that post here comes the &quot;Patriot&quot;. I did everything but paint the picture of the Patriot. I guess someone was listening.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> That being said and not wanting to be a hypocrite I am going to stick with the Patriot as the perfect hunting bow.

PS

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I had one of those and it blew up while it was just setting there. It had only been shot about 10 times. The riser literally snapped and flew into 2 seperate pieces about 2 inches below the top limb pocket. The string and cables is the only thing that kept the top half of the riser from shooting across the room. HCA's answer was that it must have been a bad batch of carbon.<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> I not so politely asked that they send me an aluminum one in return.

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DaveC 11-14-2002 04:20 PM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
I would like to add the 20 degrees biogrip. Not that I've ever shot one and liked it, it just seems like an I deal thing to have for easier shooting.


Kanga 11-14-2002 08:21 PM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
Mine would be a BT Patriot dual cam with Merlin Pro Fusion limbs.


Aussie by birth Texan by choice

Sagittarius 11-14-2002 08:49 PM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
I would stick with my Merlin Super Nova but would put Stewart's Wedel cams on it because they have zero cam lean and no spreaders.
Merlin is supposed to come out soon with a three track cam of their own. Until then, the Wedel is the best cam going.


Sag.



BOWFANATIC 11-15-2002 02:18 AM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
I'm not being biased here but....Oh..yes I am<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>
I can get everything I want on my smorgasborg from Hoyt's ultratec except maybe a better string and that would be custom made by a buddy of mine.

<---Doug---<<<

Rangeball 11-15-2002 07:23 AM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
Dave, Thanks for reminding me! Yes, the angled grip would definitely be on the bow. I held a golden eagle recently with the angled grip, and it definitely fit my natural hand angle to a T.

Silent Assasin, I know you'll correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't HC's emphasis been on making their carbon risers as light as possible? I think this is dead wrong, they should concentrate on making them as heavy as current aluminum risers, which would seem to realy increase their dampening capabilities as well as make them much much stronger. Properly designed, I think an all carbon riser could be killer...


FLHunter 11-15-2002 09:18 AM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
I'd have to build several bows depending on what the bow is to be used for!!! To me bows are somewhat like boats, an offshore boat can't get you up shallow creeks very well, nor can a canoe take that much rough water. All of them float, but certain designs suit certain useages better. :)

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Rangeball 11-15-2002 09:30 AM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
So, pick one and dream, will ya? :)

Ok I'll pick for you- Hunting bow, mixed treestand and hardwoods from the ground kneeling :)


walks with a gimp 11-15-2002 10:56 AM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
I'll just pick one out of the BowTech 2003 line, already put togther, proven dependable, and warrantied for a lot less than a custom<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.

silentassassin 11-15-2002 01:20 PM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
Rangeball,

I am not really sure what the methond to HC's madness is these days. At the time I had the &quot;light carbon bow bug&quot;. Although it didn't take long to get over it. Carbon can be a very stong material. But if the formula isn't correct or there is a flaw in the curing process, it can snap like a brittle pencil(I have seen it). I am not sure if HCA makes the Carbon riser thinner or not. The best I recall the specs were pretty similar the carbon is simpler a lighter(really can't speak intelligently on HC's manufacturing process). All I can say is that I saw what can happen when it goes wrong. I am sure someone will come along with a process that makes carbon a viable option but I will be leary and probably won't be able to bring myself to shoot another carbon riser bow.

That is unless BowTech goes carbon in 2004<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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JOE PA 11-15-2002 01:39 PM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
I don't know about the smorgasbord, BUT...

I have a Golden Eagle Natural Series riser.:)

AND a pair of Oregon BK cams!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Have to get a pair of limbs, make the string and cables, etc.
(any suggestions?)

Don't know how it will turn out, but it will be fun trying.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

I actually have pair of Alpine split limbs that I am going to try first, but I need to take up some space in the GE split limb pockets. I'll try to use a dampening material of some type. We'll see what the draw wt. and length turn out to be on trial #1.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

If the project is a bust, I will sell the parts back on ebay where I got them.<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

Avoid the inevitable until it is absolutely unavoidable!

pinmaster 11-15-2002 07:35 PM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
Gee, If I could only get me a Patriot with a 31&quot; draw, I'd be all set. I wonder why it isn't available??????

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walks with a gimp 11-16-2002 12:00 AM

RE: Build your perfect bow from the buffet...
 
Pinmaster, try a Pat. without the grip with a 30 mod., it may be very close with a loop. Mine shot 274 fps at 67 pounds with a 453 grain arrow.


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