Removing super glued inserts?
 

Anyone got an idea on how to "unglue" super glue?
I have some carbon shafts that someone used super glue on the inserts and I want to pull them.

RE: Removing super glued inserts?
 

No can do. It ain't hot melt. It's stuck now.

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If your very, very careful you can heat the tip of a field point until you can pull out the insert. You have to be very careful not to heat up the carbon. Unscrew the tip a bit....NOTE: only works on aluminum inserts, not carbon inserts.

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Your pretty much SOL. Thats why when me or my buddies go to the shop, i bring the arrows home and glue the inserts myself with hot melt.

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These guys are correctomundo...probably have tried it just like me. It unravels the carbon fibers 9 times out of 10. One thing I have always thought might work, but have never tried it is to get some super glue remover or denatured alcohol, remove the nock, position the arrow so the insert in down and the nock end is up, and pour it down into the arrow from the nock end. Maybe let it set for an hour or so and then see if that has loosened it up at all. The downside could be though that the chemical might weaken the carbon down around the insert after working on it like that. Might be worth a try...

RE: Removing super glued inserts?
 

Thanks for the info guys. Kind of thought this might be a lost cause. But may try the denatured alcohol trick on one of them.
Thanks again.

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Let us know if it works...

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A guy on another site gave me this tip, put a weight in the shaft from the nock end and swing it so it slams into the insert. I use a screw that fits into the shaft, it's kind of heavy and after several blows the nock comes lose and works it's way out. I'm not trying to save the shaft when I do this just retreaving the insert. Does no damage to the shaft as far as I know, but I've never been concerned with it.

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I wouldn't try this. If it desolves the super glue, it'll weaken the carbon bond and you may have an arrow blow up on you unexpectedly. (See below)

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nodog,that was probably me posting it over on AT.It is a method that works very well without damaging the shaft.

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Maybe, but I really doubt it; and the reason why I say that is that they make high end rifle cleaning rods out of carbon fiber now. Gun solvents are just as bad, if not worse than those chemicals I mentioned with the penetrating properties many of them have. The pressure I have to extert to get a jag down through a barrel is pretty great and I have never broken one - even after that rod has been subjected to gallons of some of the most caustic stuff you can find. I use denatured alcohol all the time to clean my arrows on the outside and have never noticed any degredation.

Nonetheless, weakening the arrow down next to the insert would not cause an arrow to break in the middle like that in the posted picture. The oscillation and flexing during the shot broke it at the point of maximum flex (middle of the arrow) probably due to previous damage. That's why we always say "Flex it First".

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I just 10 min ago tried this (on my buddies arrows) he had them cut at the shop to his draw length but forgot about his overdraw they were too long and of course he came running to me cause I have a high speed arrow cutter. So I cut them down to size then fired up the tourch put field points on all the inserts and heated the inserts with a pair of plyers on each end I pulled out the inserts cleaned them and replaced them in the shorterr arrows. I checked out the cut offs and they looked fine. At no time did the end of the arrow get hit by the flame. So I think if you are careful you can do it. I put the inserts in with hot glue fired the arrows a couple times and everything seems fine. I used hot glue so if there is a problem he can heat the field point and spin the insert like we used to do with alum. arrows Good Luck Mike

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Had a Gold Tip 55/75 that I had shot the nock end up on so I tried the heat method of removing the insert, which had been epoxied in.

Did it over a candle cause my bro has my burner, and it came out just fine. Just inserted the longest field tip I had and kept light pressure on with a pair of pliers and it twisted out without any damage to the shaft.

I bet the shaft got no hotter then it would have left in a car in direct sunlight - least the outside of the shaft didn't. I looked it over and saw no separation or distortion, inserted a clean insert and it slid in snuggly.

Thanks to whoever tried this method :)

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that hand picture is terrible id hate to be that guy

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Did a little research on removing inserts from carbons - called Gold Tip and asked them best method.

Although they truely didn't have a method they did indicate that they would avoid applying heat to the carbon as that is how they bond the layers, and if not very careful you could break down the bond.

They did indicate however that you can soak a carbon in and solvent (i.e. paint thinner, acetone, etc...) indefinitely and it will not damage the arrow.

I was told by the tech at Gold Tip that they remove old vanes by soaking the arrown in an adhisive remover like thinner for 5-10 minutes and they peel right off, and with a little whip down they have completely cleaned the shaft.

So they suggested trying soaking the insert in some kind of glue remover and loosing that way before heating the arrow.

Just an FYI

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Bingo! Thanks for verifying that gtousey.