Serving for STS?
 

I'm going to pick up a STS for my bow this week. Do you guys that use them have serving on your string where it contacts the STS?

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My STS came with some serving to put on the string in that area, however, I have not found the need for it yet after a year of shooting with it. I do change my strings and cables every year though.

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Mine is served. I recommend you do also as I did get some wear without it.

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those of you that have it, how satisfied are you w/ it? Im considering buying one, what are the major benefits you noticed when you put it on.

Thanks

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The best 40 bucks you can spend on a bow. Eliminates arm slap with heavy hunting clothes, cuts vibration down to nothing.

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anyone use the front mount STS? I need one cause i shoot a hoyt, How would I attach my stabilizer, my current stabilizer is a Sims Scoil, im concerned i will not have enough thread to install?

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i had the early version w/ the sims for the string 'catcher' and it really didn't need serving. i've replaced it w/ the newer version and it sure needs serving on my bows. that navcom really fuzzes up my string i found out.

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I've had the exact same experience as Gibblet.
On my original STS (Patriot)I don't need the string served, on my new STS (Tribute) it started fraying the string within 200 shots, so I served the area where it hits and the bow actually got quieter?

I didn't expect the noise level of the bow to be reduced, it just happened.

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Gibblet, that is good to know. I have the old Sims version and that is why I haven't needed to serve it apparently. I am getting ready to put on new strings and cables along with the new replacement STS Navcom end, so I had better serve it it sounds like.

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Thanks guys, I'll get it Friday after work and get the serving.

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I serve the string contact area on my Trykon/STS rig before it bacame a problem. I'd suggest you do the same, it's a good safety. Good luck and good shootin'

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I got the rear mount STS put on yesterday and did have the string served at the STS and at the loop as well. Also had a new loop put on although thay doesn't really have anything to do with this thread. Anyway I really like the STS. What a difference. I thought I had a pretty smooth and quiet bow before. I'm impressed.

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I just put my STS on tonight and shot it. What a difference, my bow has ZERO vibration now. Im really liking this new toy. I have not served my string yet, as i dont have a serving tool.. but one will be in the mail really soon.

I noticed my bow when from a thump-hummmmm sound to a thwak. It seems like it might be a little louder but i cant tell, it is a shorter poping-like sound. I will probably shoot the bow w/o the STS before i serve the string to give me a good comparison. Im hoping once i serve my string it will lessen the effect. Any suggestions on this?

Also, I have pre-STS and post-STS chrono's for my bow and it gave me about 3 Ft/s, which is about what i expected to get form it... Now i might take my string silencers off to get a few more FPS... decisions decisions....

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HuntingEd, I've found that placing some sort of plastic or vinyl washer between the STS and my riser seemed to help (maybe my ears just wanted it to?)
And you can fine tune your STS to both noise and speed by adjusting it up and down the string and by adjusting how far in or out from the string the rubber bumer sits at rest. The noise & sound produced will change as the bumper is moved from touching the string to away from the string.

I believe my 2 set-ups resulted in about a 1/16" gap between the string & bumper. If you look here you can see the washers, but the gap doesn't show up in the pic's I took-

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Interesting that you actually have a gap between the string & bumper. My Pro Shop set mine to the recommended 1/16" into my string. I'll have to play with it a little. Thanks for the idea Dave!

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Offhand I do believe the Tributes is touching slightly, but I do know the Pat wanted a gap.

Speedwise the only gainsI ever saw were removing string silencers. I could adjust some speed loss into the mix, but never any gain.

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Could you notice any difference in sound by removing the string silencers?

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I just came in from the backyard range,(HAHA). I put a gap in where there was not one before. The guy at the shop had the string right on the damper. I put a small space in there, about 1/16, and started shooting. I could tell a difference right away. My Diamond Victory is a lot like the Patriot so I guess I shouldn't be too surprised. Thank you Dave C for the tip.

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First allow me to apologize for a CRS moment. I just rechecked each bow and both are slightly touching the stopper. When my Patriot’s STS was mounted more towards the bottom cam I had a small gap, but since moving it towards the center it is barely touching. Both bumpers have a slight angle to them and the string is only gracing the lower portion of the bumper on each.
If you notice in the picture My STS’s are running in line with the riser. I liked the cleaner look of not having them hang out sideways and since they wanted (noise & chrony results) to ride high anyways I moved them up by cutting off the excess shaft and trimming the block (on the older style, newer needed no trimming) to allow ample room for the grip without touching it. This makes them more like the STS that guy was selling on AT.

On the Tribute I didn’t choose to remove the silencers, they left me:(. Once they started throwing legs I hacked them off. When the first one left (the bottom I believe-CRS AGAIN!) the noise level of the bow remained the same, when the other left I picked up a slight twang towards the upper cam. That is where I planned on placing the bow-jax.
I did gain 1fps when the first left, then lost that fps when the other left. I replaced their empty string weight with brass nocks and regained my 1 fps & then some(might have been 2;))

When I shoot it next to the XT and allow someone else to shoot it I’ll know if more sound deadening material is required.

BTW, I don’t think the Tribute needs an STS (some are getting tired of reading this[8D]) it’s my sight and rest that were making noise and the STS helped reduce enough of the remaining vibration to shut them up. (drop zone & pro-slide) (my theory)
Maybe next year I’ll swap the sight and rest out with something else, possibly swap gear from one bow to the other. After Fridays shoot I’ll have a better feel on what I need to do, if anything at all.

On my Pat it sounds plenty quiet with nothing but the STS, dare I say it has the same amount of shot noise as the Tribute, but in a different pitch.

All this worry over nothing, I know people who kill way more deer than I ever will with bows that have no sound deadening devices on what so ever. They just let raw arrow speed & KE do the work. Aim low & they drop right in.

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Txrookie, glad it worked for you. Like I said above I used to have a 1/16 gap when it was lower on the Patriots string.
I've read some people post a "buisness card" thickness between the string & bumper.

That's what's so sweet about these simple accessories, one allen wrench and a little time & you can fine tune them. If you don't get anywhere just place them back where they were before you started- no harm, no foul.

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This shot shows them inline with the riser-

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like the pics dave, i wish i could use a rear mount.. I have a front mount so i have to run the bumper lower so i can get my wrist strap on easily. I also shoot bout 1/16 gap and have noticed a huge difference. Now i just need to get my string served...

... and stop worrying about how my bow sounds and my arrows fly and focus on form so i can tighten up my groups.

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HuntingED, glad you liked the pics- I was beginning to wonder if people were getting sick of me posting them.
You shouldn't have to wait for the serving tool if you don't want to. Hand serving with proper tension will work since their is no load (loop or nock) on the served area there is less of a concern of it slipping.

I really like the idea of a V-tech with an STS. I loved the way the V-tec drew when compared to the other hoyt offerings, but it was the only29" bow with a 7" brace to bite my wrist out of some odd 12/13 I tried. An STS would cure that.
Once you get it served it should remove some of that thump you are hearing (at least it did for me) and give that tephlon/ nylon washer a try, if it doesn't do any good you might be out fifty cents or so. The only hang up with a washer is you can't get it as tight as without, but this has yet to pose any issues so farwith my bows.

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I just put on a nice shock absortion system from AEP. I saw Nunzio at IBO, in Bedford Pa and his sytem is in line not offset like the STS and it is way less weight than the STS system. DO not take this as a bashing for STS I am just stating how I like the AEP product compared to the STS, I have both, and yes it is quieter than the STS in my opinion. I have about 500 shots though it and I am pleased so far.

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We always serve where it hits the string. I have shot one without serving for a few weeks and see a little fray now. Just wanted to test it myself on my bow. I serve just for the extra string protection.