Peep Sight Woes
 

OK so last year I fought with my peep all season. I finally settled on a 5/16 peep. Problem? -depending on thelevel of light, I can see more or less of my round pin sight. Ingood lightthe pin sight fits perfectly in the round peep when I draw back and look through it. When it's cloudy the sight seems to distort and I can't see the peep's outline clearly. When it's low light, the pin sight appears too small and there's some space between the peep and the pin sight which makes it harder to center (fit one circle inside the other) I then have to move my head farther away from the peepto closethe gap andmake the peep and pin sight line up.

It's almost as if I'm overdrawn in low light and have to move away from the peep to make it align perfectly with the pin sight. Then again, I can't be overdrawn 'cause in good light, there are no alignment issues.

Also regardless of light condition, I see an oval(like an egg laying on its side). I only use the left half of the circle to align with the front sight -I'm right handed. I'm guessing someone's gonna say that the peep is too big but if I go any smaller than 5/16 the top and bottom of the oval that I see is too small that I can't see the top and bottom of the pin sight. Any thoughts?

RE: Peep Sight Woes
 

Just a couple of thoughts with respect to your predicament.

I am guessing that you are using one of the peeps that lays flat in the string such as a shurz-a-peep or a no loose peep. When you draw the peep does not come completely vertical, leaving you with an oval as opposed to a round sight picture.
If this is the case, I would say ditch it, and go for something that is set at a downward angle at rest. They become perfectly vertical at full draw giving you a nice round sight picture.

As for the varying sight picture my guess is that you are leaning your head in and out, resulting in the apparent changing size of the sight housing.

RE: Peep Sight Woes
 

if you can get some sort of extension bar for your sight it may be nice.
also, some peeps are made at different angles depending on the ata of your bow. i know specialty archery makes them that way.

RE: Peep Sight Woes
 

Goodness gracious you are right, I am using one of those peeps and I feel so retarded now. It's the simplest things that'll do the oddest things. Just as a comparison, I'm a well known member on a car forum and I've helped people diagnose their cars and narrow the problem down to a frayed ground causing all kinds of havoc. Redline, I think you hit the nail on the head sir!

No, I'm not leaning in and out, I'm sure of it. In good light I can shoot hours at a time and group consistently. With less light than that, the picture or circles start to slop around creating my alignment issues. I think it's just the oval in the peep that's causing the light diffraction I'm experiencing.

What is an extension bar and what would it do for me? I'm guessing that it moves my pin sight out away from the bow more so that I can see the entire circle? -as of right now the riser is blocking me from seeing the entire circle.

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Best thing I ever did was to take my peep sight off. IMO, it doesn't offer anything that a kisser button and a good anchor point won't give you. Not sure why so many guys use them in the first place?

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LoneWolf, to tell you the truth, I tried practicing for a while with no peep at all and I actually got pretty good at it. Only thing is, I imagine that caught up in the excitement of the presence of deer, I'd anchor wrong and miss my intendedmark. With a large peep, I'd still have field of vision and more importantly, some kind of alignment device.

RE: Peep Sight Woes
 

Ditching the peep is not a bad thing. However until you get very good at it, I wouldn't consider hunting without some form of optical alignment device. I tried just the kisser route and ended up making bad shots if I was in an akward position at the shot. Having something else other than the kisser seemed to add that bit of extra assurance.

On one of my hunting rigs, I took the peep off and use a kisser button and a NoPeep. The kisser makes sure I get the correct anchor and the no peep works great. That being said, I am a real accuracy junkie so my current bow has a kisser, NoPeep and a regular peep sight. Get them all lined up and the arrow is just about guaranteed to hit the mark.

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Just a thought since it worked great for me. 2004 season I missed a real hog due to not seeing thru the peep in low light so the fallowing spring The Lone Wolf talked me into ripping off the peep and using a kisser and WOW was it the best thing Ive ever done. I started about May and I shoot 2 to 4 times a week and that seemed to be enought make using a kisser habit by the time october hit. I made a few great shots and had no problems doing so this past season.

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RE: Peep Sight Woes
 

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I listened to some guys on this forum and took my peep off too. I honestly noticed no difference in accuracy. In fact I don't use a kisser button or anything. I just put the string on the tip of my nose, my knuckle at the point of my jaw bone, and the vane rests on my lip. Three points of contact are all I need. As long as I follow through I shoot real tight groups. Plus you can see your target great. I shot a turkey like this last weekend (first turkey ever). I'm sold on peep-less. You pick up some speed to with a bare string and my bow is quieter too.

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My Switchback XT, like my FX will have the No-Peep. The instructions advise covering the No Peep occasionally to shoot. I too have had excitement a time or two and it just seems that the lessons the No-Peep teaches us take over and the developed instinct works.

I think if one learns the No-Peep the form develops to an instinctive level and it proivides an almost uncanny system that rarely fails. Give it a try you won't regret it.