nock or loop
 

It's probably been asked before, but my limited search knowledge hasn't proved an answer..I currently shoot a SCOTT release and string nock.arranged w/1 down and two above to reduce nock pinch. I plan to get a new set up ths year, and if I change, loop adding to draw length etc. I don't want to change it again. so here it is...

in the vast knowledge that is bowhunting.net what are the advantages nd disadvanteges in the two setups?

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Hey thanks for all the input, not even a hey try looking here...

Petty dissapointed for the turn out of my first post..

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The loop does not add to your draw length, that is what it is. What it will do is change your anchor point further back by the amount of the loop. The pro's are less wear on your string, less pinch, pull straight behing nock, no twist. The cons are changing your anchor point. If you were to setup a poll and ask who use them I would guess 80% shoot with a loop. I have gone back and forth on this and presently use one.

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I too shoot a loop and it did move my anchor back a bit, but nothing that I couldn't adjust too in a couple shooting sessions. I have never used a nock before as I went from fingers to release and started out with a loop. My wife shoots a nock and she shoots fine with it. The string wear is about the only technical difference. Speed freaks will say the loop makes your bow a little slower, but nothing any normal person will ever notice.

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Thaks, I was under the impression hat the string would speed it up, les eight and all, how about noise level, as I am kinda even in that speed or sound issue, which is wich

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I miss worded anchor point and draw length, thanks for catching that TerryM.

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I prefer to use the loop. Used the string and tore up the serving and had to replace the string before needed too.

So I will always use a loop

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love the loop

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Guess that I didn't think about the string that much, my OLD DARTON has a plastic cord type material covering about a third of the string, and my steel cables are plastic coated, it's still the original string, and yes I shoot he living daylights out of it.. the copper noc on my string has torn the daylights out of my release is the main reasonI'm asking. of the loop is even close to the copper noc, then I want to save 50bucks on a new release.what is the difference in noise and speed between the two? and any other pros or cons between them

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P.S. THANKS FOR THE IMPUT SO FAR :D:):DTHINK THATS ENOUGH don't want to get carried away..

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loop.

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No, keep it coming..... tthhwackem, I don't want to steal your post but I'm also changing to D-loop shooting.How big of a loop do you make?

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wolf651, just enough for a clean release hook up and nothing more.

Start with a 4.5" piece or string and should end up just right ifn it doesn't stretch much.

I use loop only, no nocks.

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Thanks wolf, I was refering to the smilies. thanks dave for the input

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loop

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tthh,

There are pro's and cons to both ways as you are probably aware of. I don't shoot a loop, but have done some chron testing with brass nocks (They aren't copper). Each brass nock set reduces your speed by about 4 fps, at least according to my chrono. So with your setup you could look for about 12 fps gain by removing them

Now add a loop. This may reduce speed by 3-4 fps. Thus you would nett about 8-9 fps gain. You may be able to shoot a peep without a tube as the loop helps with peep alignment. Going from a tube peep to something like a Fletcher Mag Hunter you might realize another 8 fps. There are variables, but that is 50-20 fps. Quite substantial.

Noise level is something that you probably won't be able to detect so I wouldn't consider it an issue.

You will probably have to get a new release anyway. If your jaws have any rough spots from the brass nock sets they will chew up a loop. If you do have to get a new one then there are some that are specifically made for loop use. The head is short and the trigger closer to the head. That can counter the extra length in stretching you out. True Ball Short-n-Sweet is an example. Just try to keep your loop as short as possible. If you release jaws don't hit your nock then it's long enough. You don't need any more.

Hope this helps.

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My typing is terrible. Too many thumbs. I meant 15-20 fps.

Guess I better start using spell-check.

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I just started using a string loop for two reasons. (1) shooting a 34" ATA bow and not using a loop gives more probability for nock pinch and is harder on the serving in my opinion. (2) just because I wanted to try it.;)

I am more than happy with the loop although I have one important need and concern. I HAVE to learn to tie my own loop and do it right! Driving to the shop every time I want to put on a new loop is not something I want to do every time, and its something I need to know.........sort of like if I am going to own it and shoot it, then I am going to know how to work on it.

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BG/cougar THANKs!!!! it's nice to see that someone out there pays attention. I'm sure everyone that has responded meant well, but if I wanted one word oppinions, I would have asked for an oppinion, probably in a section other than TECHNICAL. Keep the info coming, but I learned something today

THANK YOU

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Love the loop. I used to shoot on the string and it tore up my serving.