A Happy Camper Once Again..Hoyt comes through!
 

Well, I thought that in all fairness it would be appropriate for me to post any negative experiences that I might have with any of the bows that I shoot.

Enter the Hoyt Razortec.

To make a long story short.....3rd shot through the chrony....

..BOOM!!


...The bow explodes and carbon shards are sent everywhere.

I stand there daized as I don't know what just happened. Then I look at the bow and notice that the limbs are in a recurve shape now and the string/cables are hanging loose in front of me. There is a rather large shard of carbon fiber pultruding from the Sims cable dampener and my arrow is nowhere to be seen.

Upon close inspection it appears that the cable guard slide (new style for Hoyt this year) cracked along one of the cable grooves thus creating a sharp edge. That sharp edge cut one of the cables and sent parts scattering everywhere.

All in all there is nothing visibly wrong with the bow though I do intend to tear apart and carefully inspect everything. I just got off the phone with the dealer and he is ordering two new cableas and a new cable slide for the bow.

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Edited by - PABowhntr on 10/28/2002 16:11:41

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YIKES!

You OK?

THAT BLOWS! (no pun intended)

Make sure you check those axles and cam bushings...

Also...so what did it shoot through the chrono before the accident?

Never thought Hoyt had a prob with cable slides anyways..they probably had the best stock slide on the market...wonder why they switched? I didn't even notice on the bows I saw...

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And you've got arrows on the brain..it's &quot;protruding&quot;, not &quot;pultruding&quot;! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I might look into another brand of arrows shaft as well if it disintegrated like that...

JeffB

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PABowhntr,
sorry to hear that your new bow blew up. I've never had it happen to me, but can guess that it would be traumatic.

Guess I'll have to wait for a fews weeks to see you report on the Razortec. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Damn... Scary stuff. Glad you survived, and hope it was a fluke. If I was gonna get a Hoyt, the Razortec is what I'd be after... Hopefully, you still have a bow or two laying around to hunt with?

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Frank-

Nasty to have a brand-new bow do that, luckily from the sounds nothing imbedded itself in any of your flesh or bone! <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

Yes, check the axels, bushings, and even the limbs. Go over them carefully, especially at the axel bores. Sorry to hear of this happening to anybody. Pinwheel 12

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Wow what a bummer! Glad to know you're ok. I've experienced several blow ups in my days and it's never any fun let alone on a brand new bow. I've had very few since I've stopped &quot;tinkering&quot; with different limb, riser, cam and manufactures parts where they shouldn't be <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>. Good luck with the rebuild.

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Dang Frank hope your O.K. dude...If you didn't get hurt physically I'd say it's got to hurt the pride a bunch I'm sure...In all seriousness though it's takes a big man to come to the boards and report what you just did... This ones got to suck and as we ALL know it CAN and WILL happen from time to time no matter what manufaturer it comes from...

Kudo's to your honest report Frank...


Now from my funny side...Have you stuck that sticker anywhere yet..LOL..Just kidding man

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Sorry to hear that Frank I know you were looking forward to playing with the new bow. Maybe an omen though. I bet the first thing you thought was &quot;d@mnit I knew I should of held out for the Bowtech&quot;<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Take note this was the Bowhunting gods at work leading you toward the light<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> Glad you're ok though!

Protect your hunting rights, &quot;Spay or neuter a liberal.&quot;

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Frank,

Glad your OK!!! I'd give them the bow back, and ask for a new one!!! (Darton:) devil made me do it! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) Seriously, once a bow has basically dryfired there is good potential for further problems.

If you have to keep it, like Pinwheel 12 said check your limbs and the rest of the components carefully!!!! I had a control cable go on one of my bows at full draw. There was no visible damage at the time, but within a few weeks I lost an upper limb. Its definately a startling feeling when it happens.

Aim Hard!



Edited by - FLHunter on 10/25/2002 15:38:32

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Wow.....I'm sure that was a pleasant experience. <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle>

A stinkin $2 hunk of plastic wipes out an entire bow......geesh.
I guess there was no way of seeing that one coming, but you may have saved someone else an eye or worse.
I bet you're just about heartbroken right now huh?

I don't even screw around with any of the stock slides anymore myself.....now the SIMS teflon version is just as standard as Limbsavers on my bows. They go on at the same time before I even fire a shot.

You gonna be a little gun-shy after she's strung back up?

Edited by - Matt / PA on 10/25/2002 17:54:52

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Thanks for the words of encouragement guys...and for finding my typos Jeff. As you can tell, I was somewhat flustered and disappointed. I am going to contact Hoyt to see what they suggest. I am not counting on a new bow but that would be nice...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

I will let you know how things work out.

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Glad to hear you didn't get hurt. I had a cable break on me at full draw, earlier this year and it sure does startle you.

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Thanks for the words of encouragement guys...and for finding my typos Jeff. As you can tell, I was somewhat flustered and disappointed. I am going to contact Hoyt to see what they suggest. I am not counting on a new bow but that would be nice...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

I will let you know how things work out.

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In all seriousness Frank, I think you should demand (and I don't mean that in an a-hole kind of way) a new bow so you can send that one back so they can observe it and inspect it...Who knows it may be a problem that they have with more than just that one bow and needs to be looked at. I remember the first year for the Redline cam and how many they had get out that were bad...Not bashing, I know it happens...It's called production...

The problem was with the components they put on at the plant. The part was defective and your bow blew up on the third shot?...C'mon you can't tell they would even hesitate to send you a totally new bow?...You know about JeffB's new bow that got destroyed by UPS and how that was handled right?...


Edited by - BowTech_Shooter on 10/25/2002 18:48:38

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Frank,
either your bow shop shop or Hoyt should replace the bow. Geez you only took three shots, something was definitely wrong with the bow.

On a side note, I think you should have posted this same message on Archerytalk.com. I'm not trying to bash Hoyt, but I've never heard of a bow failing after three shots that was brand new. I realize that you don't want to make waves. Pleae let us know how Hoyt handles this issue.

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Frank, that must have been a real wake up call. Glad to hear there's no carbon in you. You may want to have the shop repair the bow, and shoot the first 5 or 6 shots.<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Take care, good luck.

Phil.
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Frank: It ain't fun. Been there and done that many times. From limbs breaking to risers breaking, it scares the h*** out of you every time.

Glad you didn't get hurt.

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OUCH!!

I did have a chance to shoot some of the cam and 1/2 bows we got in at the shop. They are SWEET! All of them have a great feel. Hope you get yours put back together soon. What did you think about that smoooooth cam system before it came apart?

Thanks Matt/PA for the email

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Edited by - ACLakey on 10/26/2002 01:05:26

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WOW That sucks!
Makes me wonder if I should start wearing safety glasses whenever I shoot.

I'm really interested in how Hoyt handles this! I currently shoot the ultratec and am considering another new one with the cam 1/2 , but I've heard Hoyt seems to be getting a little too big for their britches in the customer service department. If that turns out to be true , there are plenty of other quality bow mfg's with top notch customer service I'll be looking into.
Please bring me good news , I really like that cam 1/2!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Frank, glad to hear you were not hurt! That`s not exactly the report I was hoping to get on the RazorTec!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
That can happen to any bow, as we all know. I will be playing with one tommorrow, can`t wait!

NRA,UBP,BASS Member
New Stanton,PA

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I have seen this happen with many different brand bows on several occasions.
One of the first things I do to a new bow is install a teflon cable slide. I won't shoot a stock cable slide, PERIOD.
Good luck with your problem. Let us know how Hoyt handles the situation.

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Maybe they shipped you a 29&quot; and you just pulled it apart trying to get to that 40&quot; draw length of yours!!<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Hey, at least you didn't zing that arrow into the chrony.

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Again gentleman, thank you for the thoughtful comments. I do appreciate them.

Just to give you folks an update. I have emailed them and hope to hear something soon.

BT,

Yes, I do agree with you but as the old saying goes...&quot;beggars can't be choosers&quot;. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> I know that it would set a a good example if they did just send me a new model but I really don't expect it. I do remember hearing a very good experience that another gentleman had with them back in the beginning of the summer. They either set him up with a new riser or an entirely new bow. I can't remember which it was though.

For the record....it was actually the 2nd shot at home and the 6th overall shot as both the pro shop owner and myself each shot it twice at the shop to get a feel for it.

Roland,

I was offered the same advice from a good friend and I followed it. I will let you know how things turn out.

PDQ,

Yes, I do feel lucky...especially after seeing those carbon shards sticking out of the cable dampener. <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Len,

You know exactly how I feel. Though I have seen it happen once or twice before I have never been the one holding the bow when it occurred.

AC,

I was very pleased with the draw cycle of the normal Cam and a half. It was very smooth to draw especially with the transition into the valley. The best part, in my opinion, was the way the back wall felt just like a typical single cam's back wall. It is difficult to describe.

Bowfanatic,

I will let you know as soon as I see how things are going to play out. Hopefully I will have good news for you shortly. :)

Siskyou,

The cable slide that was on the bow is a new design for Hoyt. I wasn't too fond of the previous design but this new one looked as if it has potential. If you haven't seen one of the new Hoyt bows yet in person then you really need to. It looks as if they paid an extreme attention to detail on the new models. Just about every little thing on the bow looks to be top notch. That is one reason I was really surprised for this to happen.

Razorhunter,

I do usually use either a Bomar or Sims slide for my bows (couldn't do that with the Epic Extreme...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>). I will probably try a different style if and/or when this situation is resolved.

NJ,

Thank you. I appreciate it.

Vic,

Considering the setups that you usually put together I would be surprised to hear that this hasn't happened to you yet...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>


Dacotach,

The arrow was laying between the chrony and the target...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>...so I do feel rather lucky. :)

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oh man that would scare the crap out of you, glad you are ok!

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Frank,

Time for a shoot-thru.
Just kidding, glad you were not injured!
Could happen to anyone.


Sag.

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Glad your OK. Any word back from Hoyt yet?

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Frank, I'm really sorry to hear that happened. I'm glad to hear you're OK though. Hoyt is a big company, so hopefully they will fix you up right.

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Well how did it do through the chrony before it cut the cable?

Protect your hunting rights, &quot;Spay or neuter a liberal.&quot;

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Thank you folks for the responses again. :)

To answer some of the recent questions.....I have no idea what speed it was shooting as the first arrow I zinged through the chronograph (maybe I should reword that...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) produced a reading in meters and not feet per second. When I adjusted it back to feet per second that is when the bow went caput.

As for the current status of the situation....I just heard from my local dealer. Hoyt called him today and told him that I would have a new bow waiting for me down at the shop tomorrow. They are overnighting one. I am to send the bow I have now back to them upon receipt of the new bow so that they can determine exactly what happened.

How is that for service? <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> I need to go back and change the title of this thread....<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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COOL!! I'm glad Hoyt came thru for ya!

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Siskyou,

I can assure you that in my email correspondence with them I never made any mention of owning 12 Hoyt bows in the last 3 or 4 years....not to mention a few of their hats....<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>. I wanted to be treated as an &quot;average Joe&quot; who has a problem....since that is basically what I am...nothing more. This is the second time in recent months where I have experienced Hoyt stepping up their customer service a notch or two. Don't be surprised to hear similarly good reports from other folks soon.....well, at least not about the same type of problem I hope...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Thank you folks for the responses again. :)

To answer some of the recent questions.....I have no idea what speed it was shooting as the first arrow I zinged through the chronograph (maybe I should reword that...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>) produced a reading in meters and not feet per second. When I adjusted it back to feet per second that is when the bow went caput.

As for the current status of the situation....I just heard from my local dealer. Hoyt called him today and told him that I would have a new bow waiting for me down at the shop tomorrow. They are overnighting one. I am to send the bow I have now back to them upon receipt of the new bow so that they can determine exactly what happened.

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Frank, I'm really glad that's how they handled it... Like I said before I personally wouldn't have accepted anything else...

I also kind of figured they would want to see the bow and see if there may be more to it than what you saw...

I'm sure you're happy now so go stick your sticker..... On the back of your Kia silly....
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Frank, glad to hear they took care of your bow, in an acceptable manner. Good luck with the new one.

Phil.
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