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Mike, I should mention my shooting 3D with an Allegiance and Old Glory. My scores with the Allegiance were as good as with the OG, and I liked shooting it better. I got a Constitution for this season, and this bow is a real shooter. I'll see what happens when I can get outside. Good luck with whatever you choose.
BTW, I shot my best scores to date with an 04 P40 Dually shooting 311 fps.

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Funny you say that Phil.......I saw in the IBO yearbook that the Shooter of the Year in MBO for 2005 was also shooting a Pro40 Dually and even a touch faster at 314fps.

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I have to agree with Matt / PA on this one. The accuracy difference in terms of forgiveness is negligable between the two. My 2 best 3 spot vegas scores currently are a 442 shot w/ the Allegiance, and a 443 shot w/ the Constitution. You can teach yourself with hard work practicing the right things to shoot a less forgiving bow well. You cannot speed up a bow anymore than what it will shoot at 27.5" and 5gpp.

Last summer my main shooting partner was shooting a Mathews Icon at about 280fps. My Patriot was shooting at around 300fps. There were many times I would hit the bottom of the X or 10 ring, and he would drop out. On the way to the target I would ask what he shot it for, and we both shot it for the same distance. Most of the times I have placed or won local events, it is by only 1-2 points, or even X count, so if 20fps can catch you one or two extra lines per event you have a huge advantage. As Matt said, for anyone wanting a 3D specific bow, that won't be shooting almost exclusively in ASA events, make sure your shooting at least in the 290's, IMHO it is a huge advantage. My personal best 3D score of a 296 (30 targets, x's as tie breakers only, no 11's or 12's) was shot at 305fps, a lot of those targets were 30-35 yards andI KNOW speed caught me a few lines that day.

This year, my Constitution will be shooting in the 295-300fps range for the open stakes, and my Allegiance will be shooting in the 310fps range for the HC stakes. Don't bring a knife to a gun fight........nomsayin? ;)

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Everyone thanks again for the help and advise.
Rick I did have the same thoughts with the speed vs forgiveness question. I had a conversation in college with a team mate about having a really strong arm or an accurate arm for outfielders. I said you can always practice accuracy. Sort of like Wild thing from major league:D
Thanks again
Mike