Allegiance limb crack
 

Well pepole Im sorry to report , It happened to me . When out at lunch time today to shoot a few arrows , Had the thing dead nuts tuned and its hitting great . It was a sunny day out so I decide to give the bow a good look over , on the bottom limb 3/4s of the way down towards the pocket on the outside [opposite the string] theres a sliver of glass broken away . Called my dealer and he said he would get new limbs for me . What a shame , this is my 4th bowtech , and first problem . It had < 500 shots thru it , and was pressed correctly , can post pics if requested .

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consider yourself requested;)

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Sorry to hear that ijimmy, but looks like your dealer is right on top of it.

I just got my Allegiance in today, and can't wait to put some arrows through her!! :)

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Wow, that sucks. That is the first time I have heard of any limb issues since the 04 Liberty problem. BowTech will take care of you, trust me, I know from first hand experience.

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Can I assume it is an '06 due to the fact you have so few (<500) shots through it?

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As much as this pains me to say this. I really wish Bowtech would publically come up with some type of announcement. Anything. I am not in anyway saying there is a problem, but there does seem to be an awefully lot of people reporting limb failures. I personally don't read nearly as many problems from other bow brands. Either people are keeping them hush hush, or they aren't happening as often.

The more I look into it, the more I can see why they would fail in the first place. Tons of pre-load on the limbs. I am by no means an expert so I'm just basing this off my own best judgement.

It seems rather simple to me. Look at the bend in the limbs from the pocket to cam at rest. Now, imagine them at full draw. For me, its easy to see how this could happen.

The more I read about these stories, the more concerned and interested I get.

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Antler its an 05 , I waited awhile for an extended windage bar for my TT rest so did not get to shoot it untill that arived .

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Jimmy,
Does it look at all like there is any sort of small nick at the head of that sliver?
I have seen that before where the outer layers are compromised by a small nick or crack in the limb face. If you whack it (I said whack it.:eek:)....if you whack it against something small and sharp (Treestep, someone elses cam edge, bowhook etc)without realizing it you can get deep enough to affect the glass itself and it can feather up.
It might be hard to tell now because usually the glass will lift in the shape and width of the nick itself.
Not saying that's the case but that's the most common reason for that type of limb damage that I am aware of. The true CRACKS that you can see in glass limbs that go deep into the limb body are many times due to improper pressing.

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Thanks Matt , that may be the case , though I cant remember ever hitting the bow on anything , allways treated it like a good lookn girl , handeled with care . Im sure bowtech will take care of me , they have allways been plesent on the phone , never had an issue with any of the other bowtechs Ive owned .

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Man,this really starting to worry me now.This is getting out of control.

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Just a thought that's all........I know I cringe everytime I'm at a 3D shoot standing around in a group and someone swings their bow around without looking.[:o]I don't even mind the cam to cam clanks nearly as much as the dull thud of someone swinging their cam into a limb face. Sends shudders.......[&o]

I treat mine like gold as well.......or try my best to anyway.Doesn't help the resale value too much if your bow looks like a can opener.
:D

They'll get you squared away pretty quick.

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maybe elite will have them using/making/processing better limbs in the future.

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I'm wondering if anyone has had limb problems with the limbs not bottomed out. Maybe we should order the limbs 10 lbs heavier and back off the poundage. Wont loose too much since the limbs pockets are pivoting.

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well i know how you feel but i dicovered a crack in my F5 right out of the box [:@]my guess is it was messed up by the ever so careful delivery people and i should get it back next week and maybe it will not be defective. They tried to tell me it was a crack in the lamination and i told them they were crazy and to ship it back im not going to take a chance :Dit was obviously not a crak in the lamination because you could see it splintered and it was pretty deep so basically i wasnt taking a chance

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Another question that comes to mind. How many Old Glory or Consitution limb failures have there been in comparison to Allegiances or other VFT bows?

I'd almost be willing to be that if any bow has a problem, its going to be the Tribute. Seeing how the limb pre load is ridiculous on that bow, much like the Allegiance.

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Muzzyman,
Actually if I understand the engineering of the 06's correctly the Tribute has less preload than the Allegiance in spite of the crazy parallel look of it........the limb pockets on the Tribute sit at 53 degrees vs the 40 degrees on the Allegiance. The Tribute limbs almost sit back on a straight line with the angle of the limb pocket.

Check out the picture Greg posted of the Allegiance and Tribute side by side and you can see the shallower bend of the limbs in the Tribute.

http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1397744

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Ah, thanks Matt, I see what you're referring to. I guess this is some of the reason for the speed difference in the Tribute as well.

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......you may be right but I suspect the higher brace height has more to do with the speed difference right off the top.

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For all of the Allegiance owners out there, I wouldn't be ready to hit the panic button just yet. There is no guarantee or course,I could find my bow has a cracked limb tomorrow but as of right now after literally thousand of shots my 05 is damage free.

I think the statements made by Kevin has a lot of people on edge concerning the limb issue. Whether his statements are fact or tainted by bitterness only time will tell. Since I don't own a crystal ball I am willing to give Bowtech the benefit of the doubt until provenotherwise.

For the record, I have ownedmost of the top manufacturers bows over the years. Even though I shoot a relatively heavy arrow (currently 470 grains) and treat my bows with as much tender loving care as possible, I have experienced a cracked limb on a number of different brands ofbows. It happens. I can honestly say in every case the manufacterer took care of me superbly.

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Don't panic,,, theycan alldo this.. Ausy-guy had a Mathews right out of the box about knock his head off when a brand new Mathews limb broke. Now we know why he's like he is....

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Ah, the wisdome of Antler Eater shines through once again! :D

I've noticed from talking to various dealers both on- and offline without them knowing I had any affiliation with the company in the slightest capacity that they have always told me that they had no more problems with the BowTech line than they'd experienced with any other company; in fact, some have reported better results than with their other top lines.

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I wouldn't sweat it. ANY bow can suffer a cracked limb, and there are many reasons, some we know about and I'm sure some we don't.;)Just make sure Bowtech makes good on replacing them. It's part of our sport...All the more reason to go out and get a second as a backup!!:D

Good luck getting it fixed, I'm sure it will go smooth.

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I think the moral here is , check your bow , and arrows , and check them often .

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you're right about that. i had a pin nock explode a few days ago.the arrow went in the target, but it really sounded like a dry-fire, and when i went to look at the arrow the nock was gone - but the insert was still there. about 10 minutes later i heard and felt that 'tick' at full draw. i haven't found it yet, but i'm pretty sure i split a limb.

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:(:(

Sorry to hear......

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it was really loud, scared the crud out of me. not sure what i think about pin nocks now. maybe i damaged it on my previous shots. i bought a new set of 60# limbs - paid full price - had nothing to do with bowtech, plus i had the 70's turned down. i've just lost the belief that i need to be shooting 70#, and wanted some 60's anyway.

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gibblet,
What was the arrow set-up with the busted pin nock?

I am shooting the new GT pins on all of my shafts this season, 3D and hunting and have "Heard" through the grapevine to keep the arrow weight under 400grs if you are shooting any kind of poundage........so far I have had no problems other than HITTING them but I'm shooting 60# and 350 and 321grs respectively on my 2 different 3D shafts.

I guess the test wil lcome with the Pro Hunters at around 400grs and a 65-70# Allegiance. I'll keep a very close eye on them then.[:-]

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matt, i've got them ranging from 375-410 grains, but i've only been shooting 62-63# with them. is that considered a bit too much for them at that weight - or perhaps i damaged one with a shot.

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BOWTECH IS A AWSOME COMPANY!THEY WILL TAKE CARE OF YOUR BOW -JIMMY! IT LOOKS LIKE O5 MODEL, LOTS OF CHANGES IN 06 MODEL! THE CUSTOMER SERVICE IS THE BEST IN BUS. SO DO WORRY LAST YEAR ONLY ABOUT 2% LIMB FAILURE AND THATS OUT 50,000 BOWS!THE COMPANY WILL STAND BE HIND THEIR PRODUCT! THATS WHY I SHOOT BOWTECH!
THAT ALLEGIANCE IS THE BEST BOW I'VE EVER SHOT!!!!!!!!!!!BUT 06 TRIBUTE IS A GOOD ONE TOO!;)


TENCUP

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Too bad it is not a self bow. You could just sinew back it and keep shooting, LOL.
[8D]

Good thing you caught it early.

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Well , good news , bowtech has limbs in the mail , great service . My dealer has sold 6 or 7 allegiances and it appears mine is the only one with a problem .The other guys have alot more shots thru them than me .