bowtech vs mathews
 

ok one more how does the bowtech bows compare to the mathews ive owned a mathews but not bowtech and im leaning toward a bowtech i just need a little nudge i may go 2morow so please gimmie some info p.s im concerned about the two cam deal how hard is it to keep tuined and how it compares to the single cam on accuracy thanks

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OK, I've shot Mathews for the past six years, and am just now switching to BowTech...

The great thing about the binary cam system is that they're slaved to each other... the system doesn't have a buss cable anchored to one of the limb tips. With the two cams only anchored to each other, they work as a single unit. Any imbalances are"auto-corrected", if you will.

A lot of people don't realize that a Mathews solocam still has to be tuned... And unless you buy a new XT with the Barracuda strings on it, you're going to have to buy an after-market string right away for the Mathews. Add in another $50 at least...

Throw in the interchangeability of the module system on the BowTechs where you can switch back and forth from "speed" mods to "smooth" mods without the aid of a bow press, and you've got a winner in my book!

I think I answered the accuracy question on your other thread; either bow is going to be more accurate than probably you or I would ever need it to be.

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Pick the one that suits you best. There is nothing anyone can say that will prove one better than the other for your purposes and preferences.

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Meaning pick one of BowTech models. That's why they make several model bows, to pick the one that suits you best. :DHaving the best technology behind the cam system they use is not an opinion it's a fact. The best technology is always the best for everybody. If you don't like the best technology to help you make the best shot possible to cleanly kill your animal of choice, then go get a recurve. You can alsoput a feather in your hair, sleep in your TP, paint your face and shoot very small two blade arrowheads.

Yes I woke up in a mood today...and by the way, I'm 1/4 american indian so if you think the above comments were directed towards them, you are incorrect. They are directed toward all the recurve hunters. Get with the program people, we are talking about taking a life with this sport. If you don't like technology advancement, take it one step further, hang up your recurveand hunt deer with a rock. Maybe you can even bring your friends and you can all throw rocks during deer season!

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ok, i have a question to of the botech shooters. it seems to me that the bow to compare to the mathews switchback or switchback xt is the bowtech tribute. what is the speed difference, hand buzz, ect.

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I am going to have to call BS on your comments mildot. If you are a good shooter, both bows will shoot with great accuracy. Just because it may be newer technology, doesn't necessarily mean it is better. I have killed plently of deer in my lifetime with much more archaic bows than the bow that are out there today.

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If you are so concerned about the animals, why don't you just ditch the inferior string shooter andget aBIG FRICKINGUN and shoot that instead??? Give me a break.

If you know your limitations as well as the limitations of your weapon you will be fine.

Carefull, your starting to sound likesomebodywho has just come down with the "my bow isthe best" syndrome.:eek:

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my last mathews was the lx it was a piece of junk and I tried an outback but didnt like that either so I say bowtech all the way I will never own another mathew I couldnt even get 300 fps out of my lx with a 30/70 with my bowtech Im 320+ and thats chrono speed

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I was wondering how long it was going to take for somebody to get offended. :DSounds like your ready to hunt with some rocks. They have about as much kinetic energy as the standardrecurve. Better yet, why not put down your 600 grain arrows and just get a big long spear and throw it at the deer.I want to see a show on the outdoor channel with a man hunting deer with a spear. Let's cut the scene where the animal is suffering for about 2 hours and thenturn the cammeras back on. "We don't need no stinking technology".

Oh sorry I'm getting off the topic over here. My point is YES, technology is better.

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I wonder how much Kinetic energy your medieval bow has vs a 300 win mag??? Last time I checked Gunpowderhas beeninvented.:eek:

Oh sorry I'm getting off the topic over here. My point is, some people need to open their eyes and realize what they THINK is cutting edge technology is archaic compared to other forms of weapons.

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Why stop at a .300 mag...let's just shoot it with a 50 cal sniper rifle from 1200 yards. After all the 50 cal has way more KE than the .300 mag. Hey, I like your way of thinking Mr. BJ...I think I will start hunting with my 50 cal next season. The 750 grain match point from Hornady would be the ticket.

Sorry some are feeling a little uptight...I'm sure it must be real tough knowing you just spent several hundred dollars on a new bow, only to find out that the BowTechs are better. I would be angry also.

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MilDotMaster,

My point exactly, thanks for making it.You will always be able to find something bigger, better or more technological. Just because other bows don't have the technology that the Bowtechs do, does not mean they are inferior nor does it mean they won't dispatch deer JUST as good and JUST as ethical.

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There are two extremes, the 50 cal and the recurve...that was my point. I think you missed it with all my sarcasm.There is a balance in there and depending on how deep you want to look, you will find better technology in some brands as compared to others. Oh have I mentioned lately that the binary cam system is the best.:DSo much fun...lade da!

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mildot;
lets see ...let me open a mag. and see who has won more 3-D shoots in 2005. yeap just as i thought it wasn't bowtech.
2005 3-D
MATHEWS WON 33....ALL OTHERS 11
TOP3 MATHEWS 104 .....ALL OTHERS 28
TOP5 MATHEWS 177....ALL OTHERS 43
TOP10 MATHEWS 357....ALL OTHERS 83

NOW YOU TRY TO CONVINCE ME THAT "BOWTECH" IS BETTER OR HAS A BETTER CAM SYSTEM. BECAUSE YOU SURE CAN'T PROVE IT BY SHOOTING ONE!
NEXT![:-]

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Manboy,

It's all about priorities with Marketing. You can spend your 2.5 million buying bigger building andmore equipment to keep up with the demand of the best bows on the market, or you can be a company with less demand for their brand of bows and spend your 2.5 million training a bunch of pretty boys to travel around the country shooting at targets all day.

I'm sure BowTech knows what they are doing. Once they get their fortress built, they will have time to play games and show off there bows in competition. Work first then play. Didn't your mom teach you anything?

Here ya go:

2.5 Million Dollar Expansion to Begin Immediately:

BowTech's CEO and President John Strasheim announced a $2.5 million expansion to the corporate facilities located in Eugene, Oregon.Construction begins immediately on a 15,000-Sq.-Ft. addition to the manufacturing building which will house new horizontal machining centers valued at over $2,000,000. "The ability to mill our machined components in-house will have an immediate impact," stated Strasheim. "We will be more effective and more efficient. The increased control, combined with less reliance on outsourcing, will enable us to respond to dealer needs at a moment's notice."The second phase involves a 9,500-Sq. Ft. extension and remodel of the existing BowTech Factory Pro Shop. In addition to 3,800 remodeled Sq. Ft. of retail space, the new pro shop will feature a TechnoHuntª all-digital interactive archery simulator, a meeting/training center for upcoming BowTech Dealer Universities, local archery club meetings, and hunter safety and other specialty classes (GPS use, etc). The focal point will be a 30-yard indoor range with automatic pop-up and retractable 3D targets and a second-story loft for elevated shooting.General Manager, Dewayne Tiller, added "It is our goal to have the finest pro shop in the world. Our state-of-the-art expansion will be another step toward that goal, and will allow us the opportunity to share proven merchandising and marketing programs with our dealers."BowTech manufactures and distributes the world's finest compound bows and archery equipment. Founded in 1999, BowTech's corporate offices and manufacturing facilities are located on the outskirts of Eugene, Oregon. Today, BowTech divisions include WaterDog Surface Technologies formed in December 2003 and Diamond Archery acquired in September 2004.

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hey, i saw this little african dude hunt down a kudu for 8 hours on foot - bare feet to be exact, and take it with a spear. the animal was so tired it surrendered to him, it was a very beautiful thing, one of the most beautiful things i have ever seen in my life. he took the thing in his arms after killing it and held its head like a baby. he said a prayer and asked its spirit to return and spread some fine dirt over it in some sort of ceremony. it was such a beautiful moment i cried. the animal just surrendered, and he fed his family.

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I guess that is why Bowtech is overpriced...to pay for their new complex and actually bring things inhouse that they currently outsource, probably to Mathews.

Listen, there are a lot of great bows out on the market, Bowtech included. I was just trying to getyou fired up a bit because of your lack of common sense.

You're an @sshole...I mean, opinions are just like @ssholes, everybody has one.

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In my opinion if you are dropping in the neighborhood of $800-$900 for a bow then the darn thing better be able to kill a deer at 30 yards in the hands of the average shooter.

I personally shoot a Switchback, because I liked it better. I'm not going to knock Bowtech and their products since I was think they are still of top end quality.

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[&:] MY DADDY CAN BEAT UP YOUR DADDY! [&:]

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Mildot, your comments saying, implying, or whatever that using a recurve is archaic is immature. Many traditional archers kill big game. Even with new technology an archer must learn his limitations.

That being said, I have shot and researched a lot of bows recently. For me it came down to a Mathews Switchback or Bowtech Patriot. I liked the feel of the old infinity cam better and found a good deal on a brand new 2005 Patriot, sooooooo I am now a proud owner of the Patriot.:D I will be honest and state that it wasn't because I thought the Bowtech was better, it just felt good to me in my hands. I will also go on to say that if I take on a couple of extra jobs this summer, I will most likely save up and buy a Mathews Switchback.......in my opinion their best bow ever.

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Mildot,

First, point me to the research that proves your 'fact'. Guess what, you won't be able to, because it's an opinion. 'best technology'? Best for what? 'best' is too broad and subjective a term. Nothing could prove such a nebulous comment.

Second, take the most advanced weapon in the world, and choose a target that is out of range or beyond your abilities and gues what, you won't be taking that animal home. On the other hand, take the world's most primitive weapon and become efficient with it, use it only within your effective range, and you'll be eating good that night. Ethical hunting has nothing, repeat, absolutely nothing to do with the weapon of choice. It has to do with the choices we make while hunting.

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Very true!If we don't know what our limitations are we have know buissness in the woods!!!!

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WOW! You guys have been busy since I have been gone. Let's see from the last time I was logged on I have been called an a-hole, immature, told that I don't have any common sence and that I need to open my eyes. You guys can do way better than this, can't you?The sources that these comments come from are really starting to take there toll on me. :D

Look at the subject line of this post....it was set up to fail from the start. I have seen numerous posts like these that always end up in a confrontation. So far it's been quite a show. Especially when you see a guy like D. Parsons jump up and say....Ya, what he said. HA! Parsons...looks like you have a new mentor to follow behind. He can make all your posts for you and you can be his little mini me and you can keep poppingout and saying....Ya, what he said.

Posts with titles such as these are nothing but a good place to drag out all the hard headed Mattews fans. Thanks for the entertainment. It was my pleasure to make a bunch of confrontational comments to see who would take the bait. I guess if I can only learn to ethically :)lay the bait down at the base of this tree in my hunting area, I can train an animal to eat there everyday to get him close enough to shoot him with my recurve. Ya that's ethical hunting becausethe deer is now within my range for my out dated device. Can't wait to tell all my friends that I was a great white hunter.

This brings us to anotherhot topic...you guysthat bait your deer and shoot them, do you really call that hunting onyour side of the U.S.?Mmmmmmmmmmmm....I guess if I was shooting a Mattews bow that has cheap strings thatquickly go out of tune andwould beoperated by people who don't have a clue how to keep it in tune, I would need to bait my deer also; and yousay that better technology isn't better...go ahead keep shooting a bow that goes out of tune faster than you can train your deer to eat your bait.

I'llsumup mylittle love letterby saying... 1) yes the binary cam systemstays in tune and is much better than all previously engineered cams on the market. 2) Recurves don't belong in the field (what are you guys trying to prove) they belong on the target range and 3) baiting deer is a joke and in my opened eyes will never be considered in any form of hunting I do. Should I bring up a good topic of bait fisherman vs. fly fisherman to top of this conversation? Barbed hooks vs. unbarbed hooks...:DThe list goes on and on.

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wow, you act like you shoot a merlin. have you ever owned a merlin? this kind of thing gives the thing you like a bad name. i like to tease mathews guys, but its all in good fun. andwhat's that saying about you and the horse you rode in on?

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alot of mental masturbation...

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Look at the subject line of this post....it was set up to fail from the start. I have seen numerous posts like these that always end up in a confrontation. So far it's been quite a show. Especially when you see a guy like D. Parsons jump up and say....Ya, what he said. HA! Parsons...looks like you have a new mentor to follow behind. He can make all your posts for you and you can be his little mini me and you can keep poppingout and saying....Ya, what he said.

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I dont know what your problem is bud but you are obsessed with having confrontations! I am not on this fourm to argue about what bow is the best.I have been hunting for 26 yrs and dont need anyone to follow behind, unlike pepole like you that have nothing better to do but try to bash smoebody for there opinon.You need to get a Life! Lighten up this is not going to start a war.

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If I were choosing betweeen Bowtech and Mathews, it would have to be Bowtech because they raise money for the military. I don't know if Mathews does, because they don't advertise it. "Bowtech dedicates the Tribute to the men and women of the United States military, donating a portion of each bow sale to an organization that supports families who have lost a loved one in the armed forces." I am in the military and Bowtech helps out my fellow soldier.

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That is GREAT!!! I did not know that.
Thanks.

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Ok, not all bowtechs are flawless. I have both and both make good bows. Long story short is Less problems with Mathews, but more speed with Bowtech. Depends on what is more important to you.

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biggest diff. is in the draw stop. DEFINITLEY. There is a lot of move at full draw with the mathews as opposed to the bowtech. That's the biggest diff. Overall they're both great bows.

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Wisdom from a true hunter!

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Hey I'll start hunting with a spear like Arthur was describing on another post.

Forget the 3rd axis sight modification. I'll attached an onboard GPS that I can program to the deers exact location,install a few pneumatically controlled actuatorsattached to 4guidance fins on the back of that sucker with an onboard 45,000 rpm internal gyro. All this will be propelled by rocket propellant stored inside the spear housing.

Then you guys can all curse at me, spit in my face and tell me I used it beyond it's actual range.:DSpear hunting works for me, but don't get pissed when I take it to another level.:)

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A REAL HUNTER WILL USE THIS TO KILL DEER, NOT A BOW.;)

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Hoytman,

Ok that is funny...I just laughed harder now than I have in 2 months. I should have found a picture and attached it to my previous post. I was expecting to log on and hear another old boring post and I see this...what a surprise!!! Way too funny. I'll try that next season.:D

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Mildot,

I think what rubs people the wrong way is your insistance that Bowtech makes the best product out there and that simply is not the truth. The truth is.....Not every product will be the same for every person. What feels and shoots good for one will not for another. The fact is, there are many, many very good bow manufactures today and all of them make fantastic bows. It's our responsibility to find the one that we shoot the best.

To simply and arbitrarily claim one to be the "best" for all, (to me) shows not only a lack of knowledge in this field but exhumes a sort of adolescent approach, and a black and white mentality to what is normallyacolorfull and diverse subject.

The sad thing is I think you know this and are just stirring the pot, this shows (again to me) an even deeper contemptuous demeanor.

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BigJ12,

Finally somebody who has figured out my twisted personality and twisted sense of humor. Let the truth be known today…I have several friends that shoot all different brand of bows. Two of them shot Mattews bows and one of them is the same one that Greg here online shoots called the Q something. Anyway my friend has had that bow for years and swears it is the best bow since sliced bread. He has killed many deer with that bow, but I still give him crap about that bow in good fun. My other friend Jamie shots a Hoyt V-Tec and I have actually shot this bow a few times and like it very much. Friend Jason just recently purchased a Patriot and loves it. I told him to get a BowTech to get the binary cam system so he doesn’t have to tune anything…what does he do, he goes out and saves a buck by getting the used BowTech Patriot that doesn’t even have the binary cam system and missed the entire purpose. Whatever. Guess he thought a Bowtech was a BowTech. Yes I gave him crap about it. Other friend shoots a High Country bow and I give him lip about that bow all the time. It feels like all the weight is right at the grip and the tip of limbs just float around in space. He has been shooting this bow for who knows how long and it is so far out of tune it is a joke. Yes we all give each other little digs here and there about are bows and we have fun doing it.

Recently we all started practicing at longer ranges and they just can’t compete with my bow. Do I think that my bow is the main reason? No, but I let them keep thinking that. They are considering getting a BowTech and I think they are the perfect match for the binary cam system. This system keeps the bow in tune at all times providing it is set-up correctly from the start. Most of their problems are due to them not paying attention to the details on every piece of gear mounted to their bows. I try to help and we have long conversations about technical stuff, but I can tell I lose them after the first couple of minutes. My friends don’t need less technology, they need more. When they get something new on their bow it helps them understand its purpose and importance to tune it correctly. You don’t just point and shoot with any old arrows. I recently talked one of my friends into a 3rd axis sight for the step angle shots in the country we hunt in. He didn’t even know what the purpose of the 3rd axis was; nor how to set it up. Now he does and will be a more consistent shooter because of it. Point being that technology can once again assist these hunters in making a clean shot. One less factor to worry about before the shot in this step country.

Every one of the major quality manufactures have potential to be as accurate as my bow providing all the details are covered and everything is set-up just right. However, my experience is that hunters for some reason just don’t tend to be very detailed orientated, so yes I like to push technology that will assist them in the field to make a clean shot. Most people here online are detailed orientated which is why they are trying to learn more and more each year. But think of how many bow hunters are out there just flinging arrows around at will. Just because some few highly trained people can take old technology and make it work, doesn’t mean the “average Joe” can do the same. That old technology is nothing but an accident waiting to happen in the hands of the average bow hunter. The older the equipment the more skill and thought is required to use it correctly.

Yes I get on here and talk some smack. I’m not afraid to make myself vulnerable with things I say and I’m not afraid to make a fool out of myself. It’s all in fun for me and when work can get boring it’s a place to just let things fly. I’m surrounded by corporate millionaires all week long and my actions are always watched under a microscope. It’s nice to not have to worry about every word I say, so that’s why I let things fly here online. I don’t get my confidence from how many people here like me online or think I have common sense. I know who I am and that is that. A guy with an IQ of 142 has got to have some common sense. You guys reading this crap aren’t a part of my real life, so what’s the loss. It’s all in fun just like the way my friends and I give each other little digs about are bows. Readers can have fun with what I say, or let it get them all worked up and pissed off. Their choice, but at the end of the day I still go home, kiss my lovely wife and 1 year old daughter and live my normal life. I don’t look for online friends or online acceptance. Thanks for reading my pathetic explanations. For all of you who feel the need to call me an A-hole…don’t waste your time logging on, I already know I am. Have a nice day.

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wish i found myself that interesting.