Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

Well, I was looking over my bow this evening and spotted something.

I was concerned that it could be a bent axle shaft on the lower cam but I wanted to see if any Trykon owners would spot the same thing.

Look over your lower cam. Is it completely vertical when you look at it from your shooting angle (just like you would hold the bow to shoot) or is it a little tweaked (the top of the cam is a little farther left than the bottom part of the cam) It is a very slight angle, but when I look at it, it is definately noticable.

I am concerned it may be a axle that is bent if you guys don't see the same thing I am seeing.

Hopefully you guys can give me some feedback.

Thanks

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

That is what I seen also on the first and only Trykon that I've looked at. I think it's just limb torque from the cable guard rod.

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

Thanks for the reply. I am glad you have noticed the same thing. Makes me feel better. :D

I never did get a good look at the cams and how they weresituated betweens thelimbs before I started shooting it.

I just figured most cams were basically vertical. Hopefully this is normal for the Trykons and it doesn't show signs of a bent axle or something.

Anyone else notice this on the Trykons?

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

You will probably notice serving wear on your cable because of this cam lean.

If you do: You can fix it by getting an adjustable cable guard rod, using a cable slide that doesnt deflect the cables as much. Or by replacing the fuse cables with a thinner serving diameter aftermarket set of cables.

This problem isnt uncommon on the new Trykons, so just keep an eye out for that serving wear.

Have a good one---Matt:)

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

It's not only on the Trykons but most single cam or cam+1/2 systems. Basically it is caused by limb torque due to the cable rod/slide. It's very common but not what I'd call normal or desireable. Without a solid yoke cable there is nothing you can do about it either. Ya need to read "Letter #5" on Spott Hogg's website to learn more about this---commonly referred to as Cam-Lean.

Just another reason I went back to a two cam bow.

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

anything with a cable rod, obviously one side of the limbs are getting pulled harder and the shorter the ata the higher the angle.

i was looking at that fuse string and it looked like they used crown serving or something. it was pretty fat, and on the demo bow i saw the cable was getting ate up.

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

Thanks a bunch guys. Like I have said a lot of times here on these forums, it is nice to have a place to bring your questions. This sport is more complex than people give it credit at times. And it is even more complex and confusing when you first start out. So I appreciate the help.

So I can lessen this phenomena (as I like to call it) by either switching to a new cable guard that doesn't pull those cables so far to the right to clear the bowstring, or deal with the cable guard but purchase a new set of cables and strings with a smaller serving diameter to eliminate the wear and tear from the angle of the cam.

Am I reading your guy's post right?

How are the FUSE strings? Are they pretty tough or will I be looking to replace the strings before 2 years or so?

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

bols, just as an update, i'm starting to get lots of inquiries about building string sets for these bows in hopes some of this issue can be solved.some folks are reporting already having gone through 2 cables of the type that came on the bow. i don't have any idea if its an issue with the cable itself, the serving, or the lean you're talking about.

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

I'll send ya a PM gibblet!

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

i've never shimmed limbs, but some of the hoyt proshooters i know do it on their comp bows. that may be the answer.

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

Is the cable wear only on the Trykon or is it also on the Trykon XL?

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

i was wondering if yours strings does this

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

Well, luckily I haven't seen that much amount of wear yet in my cables and servings.

But that is what I hear the angle of the lower cam is doing to them.

I also only have about 300 shots on my bow. How many do you think you have?

I have been talking to gibblet, we are trying to find out answers.

I am sure my bow will end up looking like yours before next fall.

I would imagine the Trykon XL would have the same angle in the cam, anyone else back me up on this?

Hoytman, sent me a pm if you would like.

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

I HAVE SHOT AROUND150 TO200 ARROWS. I THINK I AM GOING TO TAKE IT TO THE PROSHOP WERE I GOT IT AND SEE WHAT THEY THINK

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

Yep, tell me you have been talking to others as well and see what they have been told from Hoyt, or, better yet, maybe they will take your issues straight to Hoyt and they can figure out what to do about it.

RE: Bent lower axle on a Trykon?
 

I don't think cam lean really has anything to do with this problem of the serving seperating. If you mark, or better yet have someone else draw your bow for you, and watch the place where you see the serving seperation you will notice it is right over the sharp lobe of the cam. I remember first seeing this problem with the introduction of the "hatchet" cams where the serving would seperate on both the cable and string, although usually more noticabley on the string, right on the sharp lobe, or the "hatchet" part of the cam. We tried our hardest to get servings to stay together and in the end gave up with nothing coming of it.

I'd venture to guess that a good majority of todays faster bows have some sort of serving seperation if one looks closely. The reason it is so noticeable on the Trykon is the orange string under black serving. It sort of sticks out like a sore thumb.

Although cam lean isn't something that we want I'd highly doubt you'll find many bows on the store shelfs today that don't have cam lean to some extent. Unless, of course, they were tweaked. Every bow is going to be unique itself in its cam lean and nearly all can have this problem fixed. Its going to depend more on whether or not it is bad enough to affect _your_ shooting or if the cost of doing so vs gain is worth it to you. Next time you go to your shop either eyeball or put an arrow against the cams or all the bows on the shelf and see how they line up. I think you'll be amazed at how much some really lean as well how each bow is unique in itself. Even 3 identical bows can have dramatic differences in cam lean.

In conclusion, I doubt that cam lean has anything to do with this serving seperation. I don't think (although would love to be wrong) new cables/strings will guarantee to fix this. And its unlikely this is going to cause you any problems in the future unless your seeing fraying or wear at this location.

Let it begin....

Lance