New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
11-04-2002, 08:48 AM
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RE: New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
YOWZA...
Nota - if you had to do it over again would you go to the small shop & try to negotiate or ???
I shoot for a small shop - and work for them setting stuff up for customers in the evening when I get a chance (not that often) and I'm amazed at how many times folks show up with bows from the chain OR off e-bay, then ask for help in tuning - yet they didn't buy the bow there. We always help out and quite often we hear 'next time I'm coming here' but after a few weeks (months, years) they forget & it happens again.
I find it an interesting study - how much more are you willing to pay a REAL pro-shop for products - just to get the service? Nothing? 5%? 10%? 25%? How much more should a REAL pro-shop charge (to make ends meet)???
As for the BT - I love the bows & have loved the service - they've always been square with us - and I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience - hopefully things will get better!!!
Aim small miss small
Nota - if you had to do it over again would you go to the small shop & try to negotiate or ???
I shoot for a small shop - and work for them setting stuff up for customers in the evening when I get a chance (not that often) and I'm amazed at how many times folks show up with bows from the chain OR off e-bay, then ask for help in tuning - yet they didn't buy the bow there. We always help out and quite often we hear 'next time I'm coming here' but after a few weeks (months, years) they forget & it happens again.
I find it an interesting study - how much more are you willing to pay a REAL pro-shop for products - just to get the service? Nothing? 5%? 10%? 25%? How much more should a REAL pro-shop charge (to make ends meet)???
As for the BT - I love the bows & have loved the service - they've always been square with us - and I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience - hopefully things will get better!!!
Aim small miss small
11-04-2002, 03:04 PM
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RE: New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
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YOWZA...
Nota - if you had to do it over again would you go to the small shop & try to negotiate or ???
Undoubtably, I would go with the small shop this time. The service is much more personalized. I must say that I was told from a couple of different people at different shops that the guy in charge (of the archery dept)at the "Mega-Retailer" was truly a good technician. Where the biggest problems lie are in communication and training of the other guys in the dept. One guy, though maybe a great shooter (he says) and has been involved in archery for years I would not let touch my bow again if his life depended on it. You never know who your going to get on any given day and it seems their main goal is to rush you through so they can get back to BSing with their buddies or take their smoke break or whatever. They go home when the day is done and need not be concerned if the customer ever comes back or not. Not so with the smaller proshops. You get 1:1 personal service from guys who's reputation depends on whethor or not they will stay in business. Of course there are bad ones out there too. You really need to ask a lot of questions about what the shop can do for you after the sale and make sure they help you set up the bow right from the start.
So the answer to your question depends on a few things. If I was going to be buying a new bow I would certainly pay a little more and go to a good small shop. In my case there was no excuse. There are 2 very good shops within 30-45 min of me. The $50.00 I saved was not worth the feeling you get when you have confidence in the people that are working on your stuff, especially for a new-comer like myself.
If I were to be purchasing something like a quiver or something that might not require re tuning or dismantling my bow to take apart I would go to the big store. I will not pay $59.00 for a quiver that I can buy for $32.00 somewhere else. I just can't afford to do that each time I try a new accessory. Plus you can return the item if you don't like it. An advantage most pro shops don't have. Some people might frown upon my little philosophy here and say I'm still not helping out our little shops but how can I purchase my next bow from a small shop if I don't save a few bucks in the mean time?
I personally don't like the feeling of not being able to do all of my own work anyway so I'll be making a bowpress, and an arrow saw this winter. In time I doubt I will take anything to be worked on at the shop but will still only purchase bows from the little guys just in case.
Kirk
YOWZA...
Nota - if you had to do it over again would you go to the small shop & try to negotiate or ???
Undoubtably, I would go with the small shop this time. The service is much more personalized. I must say that I was told from a couple of different people at different shops that the guy in charge (of the archery dept)at the "Mega-Retailer" was truly a good technician. Where the biggest problems lie are in communication and training of the other guys in the dept. One guy, though maybe a great shooter (he says) and has been involved in archery for years I would not let touch my bow again if his life depended on it. You never know who your going to get on any given day and it seems their main goal is to rush you through so they can get back to BSing with their buddies or take their smoke break or whatever. They go home when the day is done and need not be concerned if the customer ever comes back or not. Not so with the smaller proshops. You get 1:1 personal service from guys who's reputation depends on whethor or not they will stay in business. Of course there are bad ones out there too. You really need to ask a lot of questions about what the shop can do for you after the sale and make sure they help you set up the bow right from the start.
So the answer to your question depends on a few things. If I was going to be buying a new bow I would certainly pay a little more and go to a good small shop. In my case there was no excuse. There are 2 very good shops within 30-45 min of me. The $50.00 I saved was not worth the feeling you get when you have confidence in the people that are working on your stuff, especially for a new-comer like myself.
If I were to be purchasing something like a quiver or something that might not require re tuning or dismantling my bow to take apart I would go to the big store. I will not pay $59.00 for a quiver that I can buy for $32.00 somewhere else. I just can't afford to do that each time I try a new accessory. Plus you can return the item if you don't like it. An advantage most pro shops don't have. Some people might frown upon my little philosophy here and say I'm still not helping out our little shops but how can I purchase my next bow from a small shop if I don't save a few bucks in the mean time?
I personally don't like the feeling of not being able to do all of my own work anyway so I'll be making a bowpress, and an arrow saw this winter. In time I doubt I will take anything to be worked on at the shop but will still only purchase bows from the little guys just in case.
Kirk
11-04-2002, 07:16 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sioux Falls SD USA
Posts: 235
RE: New Bow Tech Highs and Lows....(long story)
Cool..
And intersting...
I understand completely - and think most folks have a similar view - most folks get the bow & the 1st time accessories (usually including a dozen arrows), then I don't see them for a year or so - then they come in with a bunch of 'other' stuff (no doubtedly from the mega-shop) on their bow & ask for some assistance in tuning or something...
Also interesting what you say about the 'one guy' that knows something! Same thing goes here - there's ONE guy at the mega-store that I trust implicitly - anyone else & you may as well have your brother-in-law wrenching on your stick!!!!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>
Maybe it's a conspiracy - to only hire one real tech that is.
Good luck!!
Aim small miss small
And intersting...
I understand completely - and think most folks have a similar view - most folks get the bow & the 1st time accessories (usually including a dozen arrows), then I don't see them for a year or so - then they come in with a bunch of 'other' stuff (no doubtedly from the mega-shop) on their bow & ask for some assistance in tuning or something...
Also interesting what you say about the 'one guy' that knows something! Same thing goes here - there's ONE guy at the mega-store that I trust implicitly - anyone else & you may as well have your brother-in-law wrenching on your stick!!!!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>
Maybe it's a conspiracy - to only hire one real tech that is.
Good luck!!
Aim small miss small
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