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utmstudent 12-28-2005 08:11 AM

so here is my plan
 
I know that its been suggested that I get a certin jig for fletching but I found one that is around my price range and new and I am only looking ot do my arrows at a 1 degree right set thingy-type-fletch....you know what I mean.

Its 44.99, then I am going to get the same arrows for 44.99, the carbon SST. Actually I think they are Cabelas sst. But then i seen that a dozen of them doesn't come with outserts or inserts, below for the same price I seen carbon stalker extreme shafts that come with nocks and inserts. I am prolly just going to get them. I don't really like all this cabelas name brand stuff, I suppose its the same. If I had any patience I'd wait and get some on here or at archerytalk or on ebay. But I get 20 bucks off my next order from them so I figure its worth it. then I am going to get the arizona ez fletching for 34 bucks and some veins for 7 bucks. All that minus 20 bucks. I think its a pretty good deal. I know I need to start making my own arrows, I've went through 12 50 dollar carbon arrows in 2 days. Most of them can be refletched, and one or two have a broken nock but the rest are broken/shattered and one is lost in the weeds somewhere.

rybohunter 12-28-2005 09:45 AM

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THat's a lot of arrows to go thru in such a short time. Maybe try and figure out why you are going thru so many arrows rather than just setting up to make more.

Kanga 12-28-2005 10:51 AM

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I am going to get the arizona ez fletching for 34 bucks and some veins for 7 bucks.
Dont get the AEF for carbon arrows get the one for Alum arrows and get it with the helical not off set.

I have the standard AEF and it will do any arrow I wish from big fat carbons down to my skinny AC Super Slims;)

Helical is better for broad head stabilization.

Once again I will say dont waste your money on cheap arrows save your money and get some decent shafts like the ACC's, AC Super Slims or Gold Tip Pro series.

Also get or make an arrow spinner so you can check to make sure there is no wobble in your arrows.

If you really want to get into building your own arrows get a mini cut off saw from Harbor Freight they are about 25 bucks and work like a dream.

I have one rigged up I will take a pic and post it.

The trick to making a good arrow is to cut an inch or so off the nock end then install the nock then cut to lenght that way you are using the straightest section of the shaft.



TFOX 12-28-2005 04:41 PM

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I would also advise staying away from CHEAP carbons.I prefer ACC's as well BUT they are EXPENSIVE and at this point,you don't need expensive arrows.This leaves aluminum and my advise would be to get some Easton XX75's with feathers.I would also advise some thick wall aluminum for toughness.

If you are in the 50# range on draw weight and you get the draw on the bow down to 26" like you want.I would think that maybe a 2016 shaft would be a nice arrow to start plinking with untill you can get more money and a little more skilled in your shooting.


I really feel that if you get your draw where it needs to be that you will really be surprised how fast things will come around for you.

Canoeboy 12-28-2005 05:22 PM

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Also get or make an arrow spinner so you can check to make sure there is no wobble in your arrows.

If you really want to get into building your own arrows get a mini cut off saw from Harbor Freight they are about 25 bucks and work like a dream.

I have one rigged up I will take a pic and post it.




What is an arrow spinner?

Also I would be interested in the link to the cutter you mentioned and also a pic of your set up with it (or a pm would work)
Thanks
mark

Kanga 12-29-2005 10:10 AM

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Here is the saw I got from harbor freight.




What is an arrow spinner?
Here is the spinner I made.




The URL for the saw is http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=42307

Arthur P 12-29-2005 10:50 AM

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Once again I will say dont waste your money on cheap arrows save your money and get some decent shafts like the ACC's, AC Super Slims or Gold Tip Pro series.
Usually, I'd agree with that. However, at this point in your skill level,I would actually advise against getting top shelf arrows. Wait until you're consistently keeping them all in the target. Frankly, until you getat least that good, you won't be able to tell the difference between a $15 arrow and a $3 arrow anyway.

During thistime, you are going to break, blow up and lose arrows at a far greater rate than you will when you've got some experience under your belt. To work your way through the learning curve and get that experience though, you have to shoot.It does no good to have arrows so expensive you're afraid to shoot'em.Rather than buy the best arrows you can, I'd say buy the best arrows you can afford to replace... several times.[:-];)

utmstudent 12-29-2005 11:32 AM

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well, what are some good cheap carbon arrows that will shoot straight. I've bought them wal mart terminator carbon arrows and I'd rather take my chances throwing rocks at deer. lol

zak123 12-29-2005 12:25 PM

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The Carbon Express Terminator Hunter arrows are heavy carbon arrows, weighing in at 10.7 grains per inch. If you were a couple of yards off you may miss the target, due to increased drop in the arrow.

I sent you a PM.

Arthur P 12-29-2005 01:59 PM

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...what are some good cheap carbon arrows that will shoot straight.
'Good' and 'shoot straight' are not compatable words with 'cheap' when you're talking carbon arrows. As far as buying arrows from walmart, that's kinda like going to a proctologist when you need brain surgery.:eek:I really don't know for fact, but it seems like the arrows I've looked at in the wally's around here, most look like factory seconds.

But you have an ace in the hole with your short draw length. Your arrows are plenty short enough that you shouldn't have too much trouble with straightness. What I'd do, if I were in your shoes, would be to buy the arrow saw Aussie showed you, then process your own shafts. Cut half off each end when cutting them down to your arrow length. The ends of the raw shafts are where the worst straightness problems are, so cutting both ends off leaves you with the best part of the shaft for your arrows. Then just get plain ol' Gold Tips.

In the meantime though, until you get the saw, those carbon stalkers you talked about above would do just fine.


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