ARE MUZZY 100 GOOD BROADHEADS
 

I AM NEW TO BOW HUNTING AND WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF MUZZY ARE AS GOOD AS THE BOX SAYS

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I shot muzzy 100's for a long time. This was the first year I tried something new, I killed two does with Magnus Stingers. They worked great but i cant say they're any better than Muzzy. I have decided which i'm going to use next year.


Zach

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Never used muzzy's myself, but they are highly regarded by many many bowhunters.

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I've used them for a couple of years and have taken several animals with them...to include a hog. Complete pass through leaving a hard to miss blood trail. Mine shoot well. I'm pleased with them.

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considering giving them a try. I have used thunderhead 100's forever now. killed four this year with them, good head.

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Most of the broadheads on the market today will perform (kill), provided the arrow hits the boiler room. I currently use the Muzzy 4 blade 100gr with great success. Some people swear by the 3 blade. As you read this and other forums you find success with many broadheads including Thunderheads, Magnus, Slick Trick, etc...IMHO always make some practice shots with the broadhead you plan on using just to make sure there is no issues. 5 shothas a website with some great advice.
To answer your question: (IMHO) Muzzy is a good quality head that will preform as advertised. Always hit the boiler room.
Welcome to the forum and a life changing sport.

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I have used the muzzy 4 blade 130 gr for years. My brother has used the 100gr for three year's and killed severl deer with them.All muzzy products
Will do What they say.Cant go wrong with MUZZY!

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THEY SUCK!!![:'(]




NOT REALLY...I couldn't resist because I know there are alot of MUZZY shooters out there...I think they are probably about as good a fixed broadhead as you can find...They are definitely SHARP!!!

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yes they are good heads. I use them as the standard by which I judge all other broadheads. You can read a review of them on my website www.broadheadtests.com

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Simple answer, yes they are good. I've used Muzzy for more than 10 years and though I'm not currently using them I will however use them again. They are ranked very high on my broadhead list if not top.

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The new Muzzy heads that are supposed to be available soon look like they will compete with the other shorty heads on the market now;)

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I've used a number of heads over the past 25 years or so. After reading so many posts here by people who swore by them, I decided to give them a try. That was 3 or 4 years ago and I never looked back. They shoot the same as my fieldpoints and they're tough. Most of my deer have been down with-in 50 yards.

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I've shot 14 deer with the 100 3-bladers and have recovered all 14. A few went about 100 yds, but most were down in less than 75. Three dropped on the spot. Good blood trails.

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Here ya go.... http://www.huntingnet.com/forum/tm.aspx?m=1199527

There is some good reading in that thread.The best thing about Muzzy is their advertising team,and a catchy motto.They are OK,but not the best of the best as alot of people will tell you.Any broadhead will kill a deer with a broadside double lung hit.Really if you like them cool,but me,my friends,and alot of fellow forum members on several different siteshave had problems with them.Flight,penetration,grouping..etc...on and on.Still there are more people that will swear by them even though they have been let down with them.Like 2 of my friends who alone have lost a total of 3 deer,and 5 hogs this year.Whenthey shooed the buzzards away almost all of them were hit behind the shoulder.With the exception of 2 were gut shot(1 deer,1 hog),and1 was shoulder shot(hog),but only went 120yds.Without a bloodtrail however,and in thick brush they never could find them.Did you see Bad to the Bone 1?Half penetrations on broadside deer 25yds?Not for me.One guy had to shoot a deer 2 times to put it out of a slow painful death.Not for me bro.Even after all of my friends hardships,they still won't leave their muzzy....Some people like abusive relationships I guess.[8D]

AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHH,but all hail the mighty muzzy..HEhehe,don't hate me cause I won't get back on the bandwagon.;)Check some out for yourself.I hope they do work for you if you decide to use them.Make sure you have a good light,plenty of trailing tape,and possibly a tracking dog.Remember when hit deer like to make a circle,and run back where they came from.Just a few tips,incase you have success such as my friends have this year.:D

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My first buck in '05 went 80 yards and fell over, the second buck went 25 yards and fell over and my wife's '05 buck went 50 yards and fell over. We didn't have to blood trail any of them,, pretty good performance and none of the bladeswere even bent;)Muzzys work and work well for us.

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Ive been shooting muzzys for about 3 years now. I use the 4 blade 100 grain heads. I have killed 2 deer and 1 turkey w/ the same arrow/broadhead combo this season. So I say muzzys are good enough for me.

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Are they the best? Well, as you can tell, that type of question can go 'round and 'round forever on a forum like this. Are they good? Yes! For a beginning bowhunter the KISS principle is golden. Muzzy and Thunderheads. Muzzy and Thunderheads. Muzzy and Thunderheads. Half the price...or umm at least you get twice as many. Simple. Effective. Me and all my buddies shoot either Muzzy or Thunderheads...when we make a bad shot, it's a nightmare! When we do our part, they do their's. 'nuff said. I'm getting off the soapbox now.

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HEHEHE!:D^I like that^ Yes,thunderheads are a great start.SUPER sharp!

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Ranch I don't need to read any other opinions, all I do is look in my freezer. I echo all the others, I shoot 62 lbs out of a Legacy and have never had an arrow stop in the deer. They always stick into the ground a few inches. I usually have to carefully examine the arrow after I pull it out of the ground to see if there is blood. The arrow has ALWAYS passed through and left an awesome bloodtrail. They shoot the same as my fieldpoints and are very tight. They will shatter shoulder bones, at least out of my bow theyalways have. I'd like to try others, but completely trust the Muzzy. I used Thunderheadsand Rocky Mountains also, which are also excellent, but they don't crush bone like the Muzzy.

Cybersniper

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I don't care what broadhead you use if you have a marginal hit that is
when you can tell the difference!I have lost deer in my 20 plus year's of hunting and that is NO GOOD!!!But I have used a number of broadheads
and killed a bunch of deer with different one's.But I can say the Muzzy
product's are GOOD HEADS.The film that rack is refering to (the shot's
he is talking about) If you will look back at the film those shot's that
did not penetrate Where stoped by the opposite shoulder blade.
It would have took a 30 06 to penetrate both of the shoulder's.
The point is they found the deer!!!What kind of broadhead's do you use
Rack?

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Can't go wrong with Muzzy's. Just get the right size to match your setup.

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Yes they are good,I will admit there are heads that are ALOT worse than Muzzys.Honestly I really can't stand to see the swarm of Muzzy users engulf newbies,and then they believe that there is no other."Just gotta use them 'cause everyone else says they are bad to the bone".I fell for that samemumbo jumbowhen I started,and that's why I like to help newbies,so I can give them the REAL facts on stuff I've used.Whether it is the popular opinion or not.;)To help them from not having the same problems I did.I only speak on things I have used..

I'm not a brand loyalist at all.I have tested broadheads on ANIMALS."ON GAME" performance is what I like to see.Half penetration without hitting bone?NO-NO.Pulling intestines out of the exit wound..clogging the exit hole?..NO-NO!Poor blood trails on well hit game?NO-NO.I don't pump whoever has the most celebrities or ads out...Just what works the best.And I always recommend more than one design/brand for people to check out.I like how 5 shot does his test,and shows you the facts,then lets you make the decision..unbiased.There are alot of great products out,but there is no best of anything.We owe it to the animal to make it quick,clean,and as painless as possible..agree?I'm just here to say there are other ones worth checking out.And it is fun to watch how hot some people get when you say muzzy's aren't the greatest.Like saying mathews,ford,browning..etc..isn't the best..whether it is or not..HEHEhe[8D]:D

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Ranch I must be missing something in your link, nearly everone had had success with the Muzzy.

People like Muzzy broadheads because they are good, not advertising. In fact I've never seen a Muzzy comercial. I see ads for all broadheads in hunting magazines. If they were bad people would stop using them. Obviously there are other broadheads out there, but the Muzzy's are proven and are a fine broadhead for a "newbie".

In fact If you took a poll you would see that they are the most used broadheads out there. This isn't because of advertising it's because of their field performance. If you are new and want a good broadhead to start out with you simply can't go wrong with a Muzzy. No one's saying it's the only one, just one that has proven itself time and time again.

I think you just like to stir the pot.

But thanks for trying to save the "newbies". (BTW most people don't have the cash to buy a pack of each brand and shoot several deer to compare, they just want some guidance from fellow hunters where to begin)

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I agree with cybersniper.The thread I put in before never got addressed.
What type of head's does Ranch use.If he is having problems with pulling
intestines cloging a hole that tell's me it is shot placement!

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FWIW:

This is a picture of a Muzzy that I shot at a piece of cast iron (OK, I was bored that day). 145 Grain Muzzy, 2317 easton, 70 pound bow 31" draw:




This is a picture of another decent brand that I have used to kill many deer and would still consider using for deer shot out of the same bow and using the same arrow. This head was a 135 grain:

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Unbelieveable!

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Not the point Mr.Parsons,the point is on 1/4 toward or angling shots when you exit a little far back,and it pulls intestines out that tells me they are not sharp.That was the point.
Broadheads that have cut all the way through...
Thunderhead 100,rocky mt.Ti 100,snyper,spitfire,all 4 are some of the sharpest out the box in the industry.

Heads thathave clogged the exit on a shot like that..
shockwave 100,steelhead 125,muzzy,game tracker,old style razorbacks,easton ti 100 expandable

These are one's that I have made that type of shot on.Allanimals were recovered,but some after considerable effort.Hey in the long run they made me a better tracker.;)

SO What if it was a bad shot?If you get the lungs,but it comes out the gut....IT is still lethal.Just as dead.The point is if you have a dull set of blades on that shot it will pull them instead of cut them.Clogging the hole,and making for a difficult tracking job.The exit is lower,and the chest cavity must then fill with blood before decent blood comes out.

There is only one perfect person in my eyes,and he doesn't live here on earth.So,anyone is capable of making this shot.So,if it happens you want a blade that will slice...not pull.

cybersniper...I like to help people,and like to get help also.That is what's cool about these forums.It does help alot of us save money by reading reviews,and debates.I don't have enough $ to throw away on these broadheads either.I have been shooting different one's almost every year since I started bow hunting 9 years ago.Most test animals have been hogs(AND THEY REALLY TEST SHARPNESS:)),but almost as many have been deer.When I wasguided into shooting certain brands,then shot an animal with them.If I was not satisfied with the on game performance...they got ditched.I will not shoot a substandard head knowingly.

Stir the pot..yes I am ribbin' a little,I don't intend in having an argument,but I do like to debate.My advice is sincere,but I can joke....see here's one.....Bobco,next time a trophy cast iron pot comes by my stand I'll make sure I have a muzzy in my quiver just for him.[8D]:DBut really,shooting boards,tires,and cast iron may show durability,and construction,but doesn't show me how it will slice through an animal.

2 years ago I read piles of reviews on rocket steelheads.How they penetrated the deepest of any.Well I shot them,and they penetrate,but the blades are dull,and do not open in a timely manner`,and the spike I shot left no bloodtrail.I watched him lay down,flop side to side,for 5 minutes,if it had not been for that I would have never had found him.That's no way for an animal to have to go[:o].I don't sharpen my UN-used broadheads,and don't expect to.Especially when I pay more than 30 bucks for them.They should be sharp out the package.

Hey if no one wants to heed my advice that's fine.I try to help,but if honest advice is not wanted here...then maybe there is nothing I can do..I can give you the facts..it's up to you to accept them.


Oh yeah.Dull = will not shave hair from your arm.Maybe muzzys have sharp blades,but not the ones we've been getting in GA.

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I have found Muzzy's to be plenty sharp out of the pack. In this my first year bow hunting I have shot, killed, and recovered a doe and a hog. Both were double lung pass through shots. On the doe it went through one shoulder and destroyed the bone before passing through. I have only tried one other brand of head, a mechanical that I just didn't care for. Both the doe and hog were recovered within 50 yards. I wll continue shooting Muzzy 100gr. 3 blade heads. If it ain't broke I ain't gonna try to fix it.

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I NEVER hunt without first sharpening all my broadheads to my satisfaction,, you should too;)

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Ranch I have no experience with gut-pulling but couldn't the fletching be as much to blame as the broadhead itself? I know that when I'm just messing around in the backyard the fletching is always what decides where the arrow stops. It'll get we wedged in a corn stock the broadhead made it through or make into the the random target up to the fletching and stop. I don't know my broadheads very well but could you go back and see if there is any correlation to the bigger 3-blades being less likely to gut-pull? My reasoning here is that if you have 3 larger slits in the tissue it would be much easier for the fletching to find its way through than with say, smaller (than the fletching) diamater 4-blades or 2-blades (razorbacks?) that in essence make one large slit.

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The point Mr Ranch is if you have ever had bowhunter's class
you should know you should never take a Qutering too shot!
There is to much bone in the way and even if you do get the
shot placement right the quatering to shot make's the arrow
exit thru the guts.Un less it is placed at the base of the neck there is no shot!aNY BROADHEAD which exits thru the guts will have gut's pluging the lower hole! Every pack of new replacement blades i get for the muzzy's
have shaven the hair off my arm. If they won't don't hunt with them.
I still did not get the head's you prefer out of all that ink!:D

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Yes, we agree. If you want an authority on how heads do slice through an animal, I would point you to Dr. Asby's studies. Most of his findings show two bladed, single side sharpened (like a razor blade) grizzly's go throughgame about the best. His studies are based on actual game. I also agree that I can getMuzzy bladessharper on my own then whatare out of the packet.

They are one tough reliable head though that will probably not fail mechanicallyif heavy bone is encountered (as shown by the cast iron test). It seems they are one of the standard headsto rate other heads by (just ask 5-shot). Can't go wrong with them.

Iwould disagree withyou though about the CORRELATION of blade sharpness and and having intestines plug up the hole.
First, because of the location in the anatomy ofdeer, I would see no logical reason to purposely put an arrow through the intestines evenon quartering shots. Intestines are located behind the stomach and are in the back half of the deer. Ifthe deer is quartered away too severely, you will not be able to take out both lungs (and hit intestines). Quartering to, head on,rear shots should not be taken.
Second, if a deer is hit through the intestines or stomach, it is very common to have the holes plugged. But this does not neccessarily happen exactly at the shot. It happens more from the deer moving/running/walking and working the matter through the hole. Or from the inerts moving inside the animal, not lining up the wounds of the stomach/intestine and the exit wound. This is a common reason of a great blood trail to start becoming sparse.

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WHEW SOME real diehard muzzy shooters here![8D]
Gimp you're right,but when I was a beginner I didn't know any better.I wouldn't expect any other beginner to know any better either.When 99% of newcomers buy broadheads they screw them on,and go shooting,so with that in mind I recommend heads that are already sharp.As much as there is to learn with archery....I'm sure we want them to have to also learn how to properly sharpen blades:eek:.I say if you want to sharpen blades you make that decision when you feel like you are ready to take it to that level.As much as broadheads cost nowadays they should be sharp from the factory.That's just like saying you would like to buy a new truck,but you'll put the motor,and transmissionin yourself.It's a package bro,It should be ready to go out the box.;)

Soilarch,You have a nice theory,but ponder this.....GenerallyI doshoot heads around 1 3/16"-1 1/2".I have never shot a broadhead under 1 1/8" diameter.Whichis a smaller diameter than the vanes..BUT those RM ti's slice all the way through.[:-]So,broadhead diameter being smaller than vane diameter has nothing to do with it.IMHO.It is the sharpness.Some of the heads that have gut pulled have 1 3/16"-1 1/2" diameter.

Again...
Thunderheads...cut...1 3/16"
RM ti'...cut...1 1/8"
snyper..cut...1 3/8"

shockwave..no cut..1 1/4"
rocket steelhead 125..no cut...1 1/4"
muzzy..no cut..1 3/16"

I was more disappointed in the shockwave than the others.NAP makes awesome blades,but what it comes down to is the grade.It is knife grade..where as thunderheads,and spitfires are diamized..surgical steel.

Finally Mr.Parsons,You're exactly right!I have never had bowhunters class.There's no such thing here.I am self taught.I learned by reading books,and looking at anatomy charts.I know where to place my shots.Did you know you can spine a hog,by hitting him a hair high in the center of the shoulder?It's because his head is so low to the chest cavity.Sir...you can make a double lung hit,and still come out bad.You may only clip the back of the off side lung,but you can do it.

I have said before,and will say again.I have had certain brands that are sharp,and cut all the way through without pulling intestines on 1/4 to shots.I have over 160 hog and deer kills to date.1/3 of them being with bow.I am not a rookie.I have cleaned in excess of 200 animals.I know the anatomy of my quarry.

I will tell you a deer may not look quartering,but may very well be,and have had my share of deer move upon release.I have had them turn towardsme to run when the feelthe arrowentering their body.

Since you asked my preferences I will tell you..

Fixed..Rocky Mountain Titanium 100gr,Thunderhead 100gr
Mech...Rocky Mountain Snyper

They all are sharp out of the package.They will not let you down.They will cut all the way through.They all fly consistantly,however I would recommend the Ti's for bows over 260fps.The smaller 85gr thunderheads fly very well with fast bows,so I have been told.I have not tried them yet.As you know,smaller diameter heads fly better at faster speeds.It's been fun.:D

A final question..Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

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To answer the original question again, I'll state that Muzzy 100 grainers are good heads;)

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ranchand99, I'm really not sure you know what you are talking about concerning shot placement and heads being the sole culprit ofpulling intestines out exit wholes. That may be a good topic to start though.

Although I can get the Muzzy's sharper then what the come out of the package, IMO they are still plenty sharp and I wouldn't worry at all with hunting with them (out of the pack).

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Muzzys are good heads.I have seen better,and worse.[8D]I love how you guys are so diehard for your equipment choices.:DNo hard feelings right?:)

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Of course not (hard feeling), and FWIW, I do respect your opinion on the head. What I guess I questioned more were other coments made.

Best of luck with whatever head you feel confortable and confident with, that's what it's really all about.

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It's just that I have about1 1/2dozen of the Muzzys between the wife and I in our case and on hunting arrows that get used over and over and over in the last 10 years or so. That's a good thing about the Muzzys, you don't need to buy more unless you loose some;)

To sharpen them better than factory only takes a Lansky and a minute or two for each head. Then you KNOW that it will cut like a surgeon's instrument. The Slick Trick heads I bought to try out weren't sharp at all by my standards but they were after I got done with them. The ST's shoot the same as my field points though, probably better than the Muzzys;)

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OK guys I'll quit messin' with ya'll;).You seem like some good guys.Gimp there are some heads that I really like,but they are not sharp worth a toot out the package.I love the design of the shockwave,but the baldes are dull.Won't even cut paper.I was disappointed with them,because of what I have come to expect from NAP after using the thunderheads.

Don't you guys agree almost all new hunters usually take them out of the package screw them on,and then shoot at an animal?

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Sad but true, I'm afraid. [&o]Bowhunter education still has a LOT of work to do. Even then, there arepeople out in the woods that have been through bowhunter ed and just ignoreeverything they were taught. They shouldn't be let out of the house without a leash and handler.[>:]

I very much prefer the old standby's, Magnus and Zwickey, that you HAVE to sharpen before you go hunting with them. Over the years, it's just gotten to be part of my pre-huntritual, sitting down the night before hunting with a glass of wine, a file and a honing stone.It relaxes me so I MIGHT can get to sleep when I go to bed. ;)

But, for replaceable blade heads, I like Muzzy a LOT better than Thunderheads for a couple of reasons.

I don't like broadheads that fall apart in my hands when I unscrew them from the arrow.Makes me think they might not hold together when they hit a deer, especially if the tip has vibrated loose.Muzzy's don't fall apart. T'heads do.I know, I know....T'heads have killed all kinds of critters reliably for many years. Still, I can't use something I don't have COMPLETE faith in and I've always got that nagging little doubt about T'heads.

I like honing the Muzzy Trocar tip to a razor edge, which turns it into a cut on contact broadhead. That T'head point is just a cone with a few small facets ground into it. It's strictly a punch point. Slice vs punch. I go for the slice.

Yeah, the T'heads are almost always sharper out of the packagethan the Muzzy's but, while I'm honing that tip, it's no biggie todress up the edges of the blades witha swipe or two of the diamond hone at the same time.

Muzzys aren't perfect but they are a darn good head.