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Elkcrazy8 10-17-2005 09:42 PM

I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
I shot the new Hoyt Tricon today and was impressed with it. I am a longer axle to axle guy but this bow shot real smooth. It looks like this bow may be a good seller for Hoyt this year. Has anyone shot one yet? If not you will be very surprised with the feel of this bow.

MO_Bowhnter 10-17-2005 09:52 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
i haven't even been to an archery board that even has a pic. I think you might be one of the few that's shot it. Specs look good though. Does it still have the TEC riser and did they add split parallel limbs? Any pics?

MO_Bowhnter 10-17-2005 10:10 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
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Elkcrazy8 10-17-2005 10:54 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
I left the copy of the brochure at the range. If I can remember to grab it tommorrow I will scan and post the pics. It has the tech riser and the parallel limbs. The cam is a cam and 1/2 but of a new breed. Hoyt is putting better strings on them also. The riser has built in alpha shocks and the string has alpha shocks also. There are 2 designs. One is the Tricon at 33 inches axle to axle. And there is a longer one with the axle to axle being 36 and it is the Tricon XL. The magnatech went away and was replaced by another in which I can't remember the name. The Tricon is a split limb bow also. It has an IBO of 316 fps. I think that they will sell quite a few of these bows. The cams are draw length specific and the rep was showing us a simple and easy way to adjust the valley and wall to accomodate more personal preferences. The engineers did great with this one.................

Bowshopper 10-18-2005 07:15 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
Here is a pic for ya!


Greg / MO 10-18-2005 10:27 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
Man oh man, did Bowtech ever get the extreme parallel trend going or what?

Winger 10-18-2005 12:29 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
Great looking bow! What are all the specs?

Muliefever 10-18-2005 02:45 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
Can you say Bowtech??? Looks just like one!

Lung Buster 10-18-2005 02:51 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
Some of you people are such morons!!! You think that Bowtech has all the good Ideas ya'll are crazy!

Greg / MO 10-18-2005 07:13 PM

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Some of you people are such morons!!!
You've got to be kidding me!?! You actually bought into that crock that it was Mathews that started the parallel limb revolution? No one -- and I mean no one -- produced a bow that looked anything like the above Hoyt until Bowtech came on the scene.

Oh, and you can't say it's because I don't like Mathews... notice the name?

zrexpilot 10-18-2005 08:43 PM

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ORIGINAL: MQ1shooter

Man oh man, did Bowtech ever get the extreme parallel trend going or what?
Thats because it actually works.

JeramyK 10-18-2005 09:15 PM

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ORIGINAL: Lung Buster

Some of you people are such morons!!! You think that Bowtech has all the good Ideas ya'll are crazy!
No one particular company has all the good ideas. But BowTech, Mathew's and Hoyt each have their own innovations. It's no surprise to see them all taking a page from one anothers book.




Straightarrow 10-19-2005 05:40 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
Who cares what company came up with what idea? Unless your making royalties on the patents, it should make no difference to you. I could give a rat's hiney, who invented what. Give me a good bow at a good price with great service and I'm happy. The name on the side of the bow doesn't mean squat, and who invented what, means even less.

gibblet 10-19-2005 06:49 AM

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i care. only because it interests me what kind of minds companies have in their r&d department. i like outside the box, but not out of the stratosphere.

Winger 10-19-2005 07:00 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
Just my $.02, but another thing about the long riser, short limbs, parallel limbs, is the issue of shootability. Many, including me, find that the longer riser design holds and shoots more like a longer ATA bow.

Who started it? Who cares?

My opinion, but I like the looks of the parallel limbs. Sharp looking bow. I will shoot one when I get the chance.

jim243SRC 10-19-2005 07:01 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
if you think thats layed back, wait till you see one of the 06 bow tech's

Lung Buster 10-19-2005 09:26 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
All I was stating was that most people on this forum say that Bowtech has all the good ideas.

MQ1shooter- I didn't even begin to say that mathews started the parallel limb design. You obviously are making the assumption because you see that I have a Switchback that I think Mathews is the founder of good ideas. Well you are wrong. I think that Bowtech is a fine quality bow! I think there are many great brands of bows out there. I was merely discusted because someone posted something good about a new hoyt bow that they shot and everyone started in with all this CRAP that the only reason it was good was because it appeared that they copied Bowtech's design!! That my friend is a load of Crap!!



silentassassin 10-19-2005 10:32 AM

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That's a nice looking bow. I haven't shot a Hoyt in qute some time but I am going to shoot this one for sure.

Greg / MO 10-19-2005 11:14 AM

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lung buster,

I didnt mean to imply that "the only reason it was good" is because they stole some other company's idea; far from it. Hoyt -- and all the top manufacturers have been making top quality bows for years now. I think most people would agree that all the bows being made by just about everyone out there are far more accurate than we can ever take advantage of, leaving just personal preferences of speed, brace height, grip feel, etc. as a deciding factor.

I don't think Hoyt's '06 lineup will be good because they copied Bowtech's design; they were good before. It was just very apparent at first look that thisparticular modelhas "Bowtech" written all over it. Nothing wrong with that, but that's just what jumped out at me as soon as I saw it.

Bowshopper 10-20-2005 06:40 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
70's era Rigid Archery products bow. Short ATA, parallel limbs and check out the brace height!


Bowshopper 10-20-2005 06:43 AM

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Now check out the "limb pocket" vs the "new" PSE limb pocket


Orions_Bow 10-20-2005 11:26 AM

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That new Hoyt is a nice looking bow thats for sure!



marmax 10-20-2005 09:37 PM

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Good lookin' bow. I'd like to try one. [8D]

wihunter402 10-21-2005 10:04 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
So if dodge makes a truck that looks similar to Ford does that mean the copied them. NO. Just because one company made the 4 door extended cab and the others added it does not mean the others are junk or can't develop their own ideas. Some ideas are just very good and companies will follow. Bowtec may have come up with modern paraellel limbs and that is fine. It works so others will follow. Hoyts big advantage has always been the tec riser. Combine the two and I bet you have a great shooting bow. Everyone just needs to shoot what they like and not get so caught up in the brand name. Like others have said they are all great bows. Shoot what feels best to YOU.

muzzyman88 10-24-2005 09:40 PM

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Well, I got my wish with the Hoyt bow.

My personal opinion is Hoyt risers are better than anyone else's. This is strictly my OPINION. The truss style by its nature is stronger and stands to reason. I also think Hoyt's limb pockets are better. Now, take a longer TEC riser, with a parallel limb design and it should be one awesome shooter.

I'm not saying I'm gonna switch to Hoyt, but I'm gonna give it an honest try. I somehow don't think I'll buy a new bow this year. I have sentimental connections to my Allegiance now.:D

jsasker 10-25-2005 07:41 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
I wish i had a dealer close to me to give it a good test run.

Greg / MO 10-25-2005 10:47 AM

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My personal opinion is Hoyt risers are better than anyone else's. This is strictly my OPINION. The truss style by its nature is stronger and stands to reason.
Serious question here. I don't doubt your contention at all, muzzyman. The thought just hit me though, as I was reading your post. We're all familiar with the fact that modern top-notch bows shoot better than we humans are able to (e.g., put any top-end bow in a Hooter Shooter and it will put numerous arrows through the same hole). To that point, then, how strong does a riser need to be? I mean, all of mine have stood up to the rigors of hunting... and if they're all strong enough to handle the stresses of shooting, hunting, etc., does it matter if one certain riser design is stiffer/stronger?

It's sort of like overkill after a point: Like a nylon strap that a harness maker might use which is rated to 6,000 lbs. vs. one that's rated to 8,000 lbs. I know, someone's gonna say why take chances with your life... that's not the point. Hopefully the analogy makes sense since I don't think anyone's going to get close to putting 6,000 lbs. of pressure on a harness.

Any thoughts?

zrexpilot 10-25-2005 08:33 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 

ORIGINAL: MQ1shooter


My personal opinion is Hoyt risers are better than anyone else's. This is strictly my OPINION. The truss style by its nature is stronger and stands to reason.
Serious question here. I don't doubt your contention at all, muzzyman. The thought just hit me though, as I was reading your post. We're all familiar with the fact that modern top-notch bows shoot better than we humans are able to (e.g., put any top-end bow in a Hooter Shooter and it will put numerous arrows through the same hole). To that point, then, how strong does a riser need to be? I mean, all of mine have stood up to the rigors of hunting... and if they're all strong enough to handle the stresses of shooting, hunting, etc., does it matter if one certain riser design is stiffer/stronger?

It's sort of like overkill after a point: Like a nylon strap that a harness maker might use which is rated to 6,000 lbs. vs. one that's rated to 8,000 lbs. I know, someone's gonna say why take chances with your life... that's not the point. Hopefully the analogy makes sense since I don't think anyone's going to get close to putting 6,000 lbs. of pressure on a harness.

Any thoughts?

Bingo !
we all have been shooting bows for many, many years, and i dont think anyone has ever had a riser fail, or limb pockets.
These are marketing ploys to get you to buy a new bow.
It comes down to how a bow feels when you use it, and in my opinion hoyt sucks in that department. Noisy, vibrates like hell, no valley, not near the top of my list as a good shooting ( feeling) bow.

TFOX 10-26-2005 09:06 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
zrexpilot


There have been thousands of riser failures,what do you think happened to XI?They made the grips area too small for a single truss style riser to withstand the stress that a riser goes through and they snapped,usually on someones head.OUCH!!!!



Hoyt is able to make anextremeley small grip while still maintaining strength and stability during the shot.Other than being different with the look this is the main advantage.The look from a marketing stand is brilliant,when you see a Hoyt,even from a distance,you know it's a Hoyt and after a while ityou start thinking there must be something to those Hoyts because there seem to be alot of them out there.The rest of the brands just seem to blend in with the rest.




Now for the Tricon.I shot it tonight and it was OK and there was no shock or vibration but that is the furthest thing down on my list when shooting a bow.The most important is where will the arrow go when I am less than perfect and how well does it hold on target for me.I don't like a 33" bow PERIOD and the parallel limb design isn't impressing me either.These limbs lay completely flat when at full draw and you are holding a box and this isn't conducive to a forgiving bow.I could tell right away the bow wanted to tilt back and forth in my hand and I had to conciouslykeep the bow level.Not something I want to have to think about when shooting.The XL should be better but I believe it would be similar.I actually could have shot it too but didn't really need too.The 2nd thing I don't like is the 1 3/4"reflex.I prefer not to go below 1 1/4" reflex and prefer a deflex riser.


All in all,if you like a parallel limb bow you will be impressed with this bow.It has the best limb techology on the planet right now so limb failues that have been associated with parallel limbs SHOULD be gone on this bow.The cam system is awesome and is specific to the Trycon bowsand the parallel limbs.They will not work well on a standard limb angle bow,I already asked.They are draw length specific but there is a draw stop for changing letoff and they claim it will not change draw length(I will have to see it to believe it)It would be better if it did for minor draw adjustments.

The strings are ts1 material,made by Fuse,and are stretched with 700 pounds of stress before serving so they should be well made.


I think my Xtec will be around another year for huting,unless I decide toreplace it with a Protec.I have a target Protec and it is the best bow I have ever shot.;)

Elkcrazy8 10-26-2005 09:20 PM

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TFOX, I agree with you on the protec as I bought 2 last year. Even though I was impressed with the trycon, I will stick with my protec. I like the longer ata and the protec sure does the job. It sounds like you may have met with a rep.????? That is where I got to see the new bows, and I beleive they will sell alot of these bows...........

TFOX 10-26-2005 09:32 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
Yes,I talked to a rep today and I agree,they will sell a boatload of these bows.They are the fad right now and they are a top notch bow,imo,seem to better than other parallel bows i have played with.

Not knocking parallel limb bows but they are not my cup of tea.



I did like the new arrows he had but they still won't out perform my ACC's.If you have'nt seen them,you will be impressed.Can we say inside out ACC?;)

Elkcrazy8 10-26-2005 10:49 PM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
TFOX, the arrows were the full metal jacket. I agree, I shoot the a/c/c's for target and the 78's for hunting and indoor. I imagine the new arrows don't come cheap either. At the time of looking at them, the rep would not give us an MSRP. The only thing that I saw about them over the a/c/c arrows is the ease of stripping to refletch.

gibblet 10-27-2005 06:43 AM

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you must have meant ts1+, which is not ts1 at all (ts1 is not available anymore), its pure dyneema like 8125, and i doubt it would take 700 lbs without failing. they do something to it, some sort of process to try and take the stretch out and make it faster, that makes it more brittle than 8125. i wouldn't use it if you gave it to me.

Orions_Bow 10-27-2005 09:56 AM

RE: I shot the new 06 Hoyt Tricon today
 
I saw the Hoyt catalog yesterday & I must say Hoyt nailed it on the head with the new Trykon XL. I really like the specs, 7.5" brace height, 36" ATA & 314 fps IBO. WOW - I think this may be my new bow next year! The Zephyr cam sounds awsome. This is very close to the type of bow I have been waiting on. I may be going back to Hoyt after 5 or 6years of shooting Mathews.

The Hoyt catlog says the Fuse strings will be stretched at 700 lbs of tension. I wouldn't be surprised if it was Ultra-Cam - since Tim Strickland shoots for Hoyt & is associated with Brownell, It's their best material.

I can't wait to give one of these a try! Anyone want to buy a Bowtech & aMathews? ;)

TFOX 10-27-2005 04:25 PM

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Elkcrazy8

The only thing the rep said about the price of the Full Metal Jacket arrows was that they were cheaper than the AC slims.


Gibblet,

They advertise 700#'s,if it is true isn't something I can vouch for.Personally,I believe prestretching is over rated.If a string is built properly,(serving properly)the string will be stable.I do agree that prestretching will take elasticity out of the string.

walks with a gimp 10-29-2005 02:52 PM

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Three more days until the Tribute is shown to the archery world;)


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