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Speaking only for myself, I'm don't get angry, though it may seem that way with a computer screen that has the reader substituting emotion where there is none.

I don't mind a person not liking the WB or switching to another rest and preferring it. On the other hand, I don't like myths being perpetuated about a good product. The only way I can let other hunters know that it's worth trying, is to explain my arguments as to why I believe it is such a good rest for a hunter. I like to explain how the problems people encounter are easy to overcome, if you know what to do. The debate seems to get heated, not when someone explains why it didn't work for them, or why they don't like it, but when someone decides to belittle those who use it or exagerate the problems one may encounter. I see an awful lot of that and it reminds of the bow brand wars - which are absolutely rediculous in my view.

My reasons choosing a particular rest are very clear in my mind, but I don't expect others to think like I do. Nothing wrong with shooting off your knuckle, if that is what turns you on! I do it myself, when the mood hits. Obviously, if someone tries a WB, they are interested in the benefits of a full capture rest. When they have problems, it serves no purpose to call the WB junk and act incredulous that anyone would even try such a contraption. What helps, is to see if we can get it working well for them. If not, then let them move on.

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Or they were too smarttokeep onbeating their head against a brick wall andknew when to change to something else. And you're right, there aren't many products out there that don't have their negative issues. But very few products have such a fanatical following that people can't honestly list those issues without having doubts cast on their intelligence,parentage or morals by the true believers.

One shouldn't have to face the Spanish Inquisition just because he doesn't like a particular arrow rest, no matter how popular it might be.

(Made it to 7 pages. Goin' fer 8!)

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I agree with you there. I find it distasteful, no matter what side of the debate it comes from, and there is no doubt that it comes from both sides.

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Something I've noticed is that people who have never used a product rarely know enough about it to have an opinion thats worth more than used toilet paper. That's what I've noticed.

No I'm not. You explain exactly what the advantage of a dropaway is then? Want me to? It's to get the arrowclear of any rest contact faster so that minor glitches in form have less effect on the shot. If you shoot with good form then this is a none issue at any reasonable hunting distance.



Amen, some people have such a high opinion of themselves they want you to follow their advice even when the topic being discussed is one they have no experience in. Arthur and Zare so high on themselves I imagine that they save all their bowel movements and try to sell them at a roadside booth. They are both probably mystified as to why no wants to buy it. It'sreally sad actually.

Because most of what you say is BS for starters, based on no personal experience secondlyand finally you are completely unable to separate facts from opinions.

Exactly. Look around and see how many threads get started here every day by some person whose broadheads aren't hitting the same place as his field tips and he can't understand why. Invoking Arthurs logic I would have to tell that person that their particular brand of bow justcan't be made toshoot broadheads and field tips together. Arthurs Solution? Buy a different bow.

Now me on the other hand, I'm going to assume (correctly) that the guys bow isn't tuned. Why because I have tunedmany of them in my 40 yearsof life for friends and family and never found one yet that could not be made to group FT's and BH's together.

It's the same with some guy that comes on here and says he shot an arrow through a WB a few times and it's already trashed the fletchings. Again arthur is going to say buy a new rest. Me I am going to again assume (correctly again) that the guy either has it set up wrong or his bow is badly mistuned. Why? Because I, unlike Arthur, have set up at least 2 dozen of the WB's on peoples bows and have seen first hand that when properly installed on a well tuned bow they work excellently and do not destroy fletchings.

There is a bigdifference between knowing what you are talking about and just talking like you know.

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Possibly, but that would be far from the first step. There's a whole mess of stuff to look at first. I sure wouldn't waste a day's worth of time wrestling with one rest though.

Not all accessories are a real good match with all bows. The whole thing is a unit and if one part of it doesn't work with the rest, then the whole thing doesn't work properly. You gotta experiment to find the right combination, not be so muleheaded that you grit your teeth and try to force stuff to work together.

However, just like arrow rests, not all bows are a good fit for all people. Maybe the gripisn't ergonomic for thebow's owner. The draw length might be too short or too long. Maybe he'd do better with a lower or higher letoff. People can adapt to machines to a certain degree, but there are limitations.

I can tell you for a fact I probably wouldn't even consider looking at the same bow you shoot, much less buy one,and I don't even know what it is. Odds are very high it doesn't even come in my draw length.

I can sit comfortably in a Mini Coop, but don't have any head room in a GMC pickup, odd as that might seem. Which would I choose tomake a hundred mile tripin if given my choice? Duh.

Same thing with bows, sights and arrow rests. If it doesn't fit you, you're never going to be comfortable and you're never going to shoot well.

I challenge you to disprove, in 100% of all cases, any point I've made on this thread about the WB. THEN you can talk smack.

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Nor do I. I do not work for or own any stock in the company.

Exactly like the following gems from Arthur.

Didn't Arthur chastise me for making these debates about personal attacks. Hmmm, looks like he implied WB's are for Klutzs on page 2.

Meaningless overstated hyperbole. Poor bowhunters are being beaten with sticks and made to buy WB rests against their will by mean Pro shops bribed by Carolina Archery. This is the kind of meaningless crappola that gets people pissed.

2 fps tops. But I guess a master like yourself can notice a severe performance difference due to the loss of that 2 fps. :eek:

Not if properly set up.

Outright lie!

Hmmm, more personal attacks on WB users. Dang Arthur I thought you were morally above that. And yet he wonders why people get pissed at him.

Proof from his own mouth that he's basically just a s##t disturber.

First name one rest on earth that can't under some circumstance be bent? Then do a search at this website and see how many threads have been dedicated to the serious bending problem of WB rests. Cause I've never seen such a threadat all. Never bentone myself or had someone I know bend a WB yet either. These are the kind of Myth creating comments that also anger people.

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I tried shooting off my knuckle. It messed up my fletchings and I had to use too many band aids. Switched to another rest and my artificial bow is shooting much better.[8D]

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Todd1700,
This is your opinion and I respect that.

In my opinion,If there is any inconsistance in form,it will affect your shot reguardless of which rest you use.

The reason I shoot a drop away is that it gives no-resistance
no matter how small the resistance is.
Like you said "It's to get the arrowclear of any rest contact faster !"
Plain and Simple.

I do think the WB.. IS a good product,but it could use a little improvement.

NOTHING is without flaw!

like maybe leaving asmall space open for vane pass through(like little v's
cut within the circle for the vanes to pass through without contact with
the "wiskers")
My dad and I experimented with one how I described,and he simply loves it!!
Without the friction,it added somewhere around 5-10fps and grouped at least 1" closer!
I know it aint much but when your as anal as we are....well....:eek:
And guess what, no chance of vanes getting ripped off by pass through either ;)

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dang,forgot what i wanted to say[>:]

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Todd1700
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