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Ultra Nok vs String loop
Which do you prefer and why? I ask because I tried an Ultra Nok but noticed some slight wear on my release jaws. Has anyone used one long enough to see it wear down the release? I like the benefit of it aligning the peep without the use of the tube, however I do not want to wear out my release. Some insight would help.
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I shoot off the string and use a "tubeless" peep. As I said in another post I like the string loop also. I wouldn't want to use an ultra nock just because the weight has got to cost you some fps.
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I've used both and like the string loop simply because it is lighter and cheaper. I never experienced any of the negatives you hear about the Ultra Nock (I had the XL). Other than it was heavy. I also used a rolleraid release so wear was not a problem.
Now I use a string loop with a release designed for it (small hook on the end with a short head). I also have a fletch hunter 3-D release if I want to shoot right off the string. It has a larger smoother curve on the jaws so it doesn't damage your string. Kind of a pain with a loop though, hence the new release specifically for the loop. Paul |
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Many have had their string break right at the ultra nock , I would not consider putting one on my bow .
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Is this something you have heard, or actually seen? I have never seen it myself or actually met anyone that it has happened to. Mine showed no wear or any sort when I used it. Nor did it ever come loose like I hear people talk about.
I have seen string loops come off though. Paul |
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I have used both and prefer the string loop. The string loop is much lighter so it will have less impact on your fps. Also, i often here metal to metal contact when some of my buddy's attach their release to their nock. I know i wouldn't want to riskthe bruiser under the stand hearing it.
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I would recomend using a string loop. Much lighter and also a lot quieter while shooting. One of my buddies uses the ultra nok and it is so noisy!! I don't like them at all!!
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I would most definitely suggest a regular string loop over a metal nock loop. The metal loops, in my experience, tend to wear on the release, slow down arrow speed, produce more noise and can potentially nick your cables.
A properly tied string loop has none of those issues. |
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I've tried both and the string loop is the way to go hands down.
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Loop all the way. You will a little loose speed with a ultra noc. I have seen it cut a string first handbut the guy put a lot of torq on those little screws most likely caused the problem himself. I don't know about wear as I only shot it for a day or two on my bow and then went back to a loop. Some of my buddys love them and other like a loop. Matter of person opinion I guess.
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After haveing a string loop come untied last year when draw on a deer i decided to try the ultranock(XL) and i like it a lot. I had no problems with it,, the only wear i could tell was that the paint wore off wear the jaws set on it,,but had no sever wear on anything,,,the only downsides i found with it is that it is heavy as other have said and they will make your bow louder,,do to the extra wiehgt in the center on the string
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I agree with what silverhawk said. A metal loop will make a bow a lot louder. I personally use a d-loop, but I've given my self a bloody mouth twice with it [:@]. Hands down, go with the d-loop. But if you see start to wear, even just a little bit, replace it. Unless you particularly enjoy being busted in the face by your own fist! ;)
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I use the string and would never veer from it. My friend used an ultra nock and quickly went to the string. PABowhntr said "can potentially nick your cables". My friend had his drop away rest broken (NAP) and the only thing he and the feller at the pro shop could come up with was the ultra nock.
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I have used a loop,an ulta nock,and the XL,I had serving slippage with all of them.I have found the best of both worlds it's called a speed loop.It will align your peep,You could break a loop,and not lose your nock point.It doesn't put pressure on the serving so there is no slippage.It's not noisy either.Hope I helped.:)
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i just wanna say i never had any problems as far as grouping or fraying in many years of use on the ultra knock. noise is WAY OVER EXXAGERATED. i dont notice loosing any feet per seconds and it has a nice feel as far as locking my release to a solid hold on the string. truth be told on this site i have seen many more loops come apart than any complaints about metal 'd' loops", it just plain works. if you notice any complaints that come about are of a casual user who switched back for unknown reasons. unklike myself i have logged many hours on both. after saying this i say both work well its up to you to decide. you say potato i say potaato[&:]
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I have been using the same Ultra Nok XL and Truefire X-Caliper for years without any problems. There is some wear. I don't shoot as much as alot of people tho. I am thinking of trying a string loop with a new release this year. I might choose to switch back if I'm not impressed.
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if your release is showing wear, and you go to a string D loop. make sure you get your Jaws on the release filed down smooth. If you don't the Jaws showing the wear will cut the string loop and you will punch yourself right in the face.
Been there done that. good luck.... |
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I agree with all. I say this because of my current experience with both. I've shot the D loop and had to replace 3 because of wear. As cheap as it is to replace the loop it is bothersome. I currently have the U-N xl and love it. I haven't noticed any loss and check my Nok before and after every shooting session. There is no specified torque requirements posted for instalation so use discression. The precautions I have taken is that I have wrapped the mounting area with a 1.5 inch piece of silicone/rubber shrink, then mounted the U-Nxl using the supplied hardware. Over Kill maybe, but siding on the cautious never hurts. Most of you if not all have much more experience than me. I've asked questions and read posts from here and recieved great advise. I like what I currently have and have suggested it to friends. I've also informed them of what I have read here and the precautions I've taken. Just be smart and take in all info you read here and do what you feel is right for you and your set up. Hope it works out for ya. Happy Hunting.
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The string loop is the only way to go. If it's tied on right it will align your tubless peep. As long as it's tied on right it won't slip either. Just make sure you got it on right and you won't haveany problems. It's like I told people when I worked in the pro shop, ultra nocks are metal. Enough said.
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Masterdriver:
The reason your loops might wear out so fast might be due to the fact that your release aid is older and the jaws are more worn. Older release aids tend to cut the d-loop pretty quickly. |
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I use the loop.
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BDH,
You'd be right if I only had 1 release. Basically I shoot everyday and I only have 1 archery shop here on Oahu. My loops just wear out and I have become tired of replacing it. I thought it was hitting the cable gide but that wasn't the case because each loop wore out in a different place each time so I went to the U-Nxl and haven't had any issues. Thanks for the reply. |
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i have used the trufire 5 star center knock for years. i really like it as far as wear on it or the release, but it does seem to be hard on the string and cable. it appears that it slaps it with every shot, and i'm sure causing a little more noise than a string. but i really like the reliability of it, it's never slipped the release, or dropped an arrow on a letdown. i guess i can handle a new string each year due to the wear and tear from it, otherwise i'm happy with it.
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I use an Ultra Noc and have been for over a year, in that year i have shot more than 1000 arrowns with aboslutely no issues, just a little wear on my release but not much.Have not had any issues with my string or servicings at all. The only reasonsomeone string should break at theNoc would be if the tech who put it on, screwed it on way to tight.ULtra Nocs should never be under or over tightend. I love my ultra noc, never tried a string loop nor do i think i will.
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Get the string loop, i've heard that the ultra noks have a tendency to shatter. I have always had very good luck with the string loop. Plus it is a lot cheaper way to go.
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shatter thats a new one:eek: i think your talking about carbon arrows.
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Is this 1992? Do they even still sell ultranoks? They are heavy. Which will result in slowing your bow down. They suck to get your peep in line unless you use a tube (once again is this 1992). Save the money, use a loop!
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My ultra noc isnt heavey...1992???wher did that come from???I have had absolutley NO ISSUES WHAT SO EVER with my ultra noc. Spped never decreased, as accurate as it was beforeI put the Ultra Noc on.
heres my setup PSE Nova S4 65# 28 inch Draw 30 inch Easton 2315s with 100 gr Thunderheads HHA Optimizer Sight Whisker Bisket |
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WOW,
This is becoming a bit heated. |
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Gents,
I most definitely come to this site for great and sound guidence. Part of becoming a "veteran" archer is through failure and success. Go for what works for you. I like what I have currently and the cost is worth it. Good hunting to all. |
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get a job:D buy an ultra nock. pack of string loops is 5$ an ultra nock is like 12$ i dont think money should even be an issue.
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