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savedbygrace 08-31-2005 12:14 PM

brass nock or not?
 
As shown on one of my previouis posts I sent some pics of my form. My DL is 26inches but my bow only drops down to 27 inches. I have a loop string currently on there and some people have recommend taking it off and just putting on a brass nock. I am kinda leary about this becasueI've heard alot of you guys say that a brass nock alone can really mess up your accuracy. I've also heard someone say to put a brass nock on top and a "cushion plunger" on bottom and hook my releasebelow the plunger. I'm not sure what a cushion plunger is but I was wondering ifI did decide to take the string loop off what is the best setup I could use for the best accuracy without using the string loop? Thanks

PABowhntr 08-31-2005 12:53 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
I shot a brass nockset/eliminator (cushion) button combo for years and I was able to get very good accuracy out of those setups. The string loop that everyone has gone to as of late is a relative newcomer to the archery scene. Many people were shooting very good scores and quite a few deer very accurately long before the loop came along.

If the brass nockset upsets you though then just have someone tie on a nockset with some serving thread instead......does the same thing as a brass nockset with less weight and less possible damage to your nock.



RIStrutStopper 08-31-2005 01:19 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
I have a short draw length too. I use a brass nock/eliminator button combo. I think its pretty accurate. I'd rather shoot straight off the string than have to increase my draw length to accomodate a loop. I know I can adjust the bow (maybe have to get a new module) to compensate, but i don't think its worth thte trouble.

MO_Bowhnter 08-31-2005 03:07 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
What kind of bow do you shoot? If you can get a module to change your DL, you won't have to take off your loop. If I was you I would go this route. It may be more expensive but the advantages of the loop outweigh the extra cost IMO.

savedbygrace 08-31-2005 03:41 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
I'm shooting a Tomkat.

hawg man 09-05-2005 05:09 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
This is the first year Ive heard of the string loop.I have been shooting a cusion under the nock and brass above for ever. I bought a new bow and it has a loop on it. Before my DL was 28 and 7 twist in the string and now it went to 27 with the loop.I tied a short loop on the string and put my release on the shortest spot and i moved the DL to 27 1/2 now. I never had any trouble with the brass and cusion and I am thinking of going back so I can go back to28DL. I reserve my string when it needs it. Its not at all hard to do.Dont worry about the serving as long as you get the bow to fit you. You will be better off. Like one of the guys said, We shoot that way for years (23) for me. I hope this has been of some help.

DaveC 09-06-2005 05:51 AM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
Most archers at one time or another shot straight off the string. It wasn't a bad thing to do so either, a lot still do. There are some benfits to a string loop, but that doesn't mean shooting off the string lack any of it's own.
For one you get a better hook up in the dark, not fumbling around hoping to hook your loop. The other is your draw length which is why your considering it.
I would go with the eliminator button underneath if you do go loopless. The weights of the swap should cancell each other out.
Now That I'm shooting with a No-peep I could easily dump my loop if I wanted another 1/2 of draw, but my cam gets a little touchy towards 30" soI will leave well enough alone.

Now I just need to getsome no-peep's for my other bows. Once you get used to shooting with one a peep just get's in the way.

Dairy King 09-06-2005 10:28 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
Loops dont change your draw length. Your draw length stays the same no matter how long the loop is, what changes is where you use your hand to anchor on your head/face.

MO_Bowhnter 09-07-2005 10:38 AM

RE: brass nock or not?
 

Loops dont change your draw length. Your draw length stays the same no matter how long the loop is, what changes is where you use your hand to anchor on your head/face.
But in effect, loops will shorten your drawlength because when you add the loop you have to decrease your DL to keep your anchor point the same.

BGfisher 09-07-2005 11:57 AM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
Mo Bow, yes but you can adjust your anchor by shortening the release. You don't change the bow. Another trick is to keep the loop as short as possible. If your release doesn't hit the nock when hooked up then it's long enough.

mofire 09-07-2005 05:17 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
Hi there, I agree completely with Dairy King. I own a pro shop and I set alot of bows up with the loop and the brass with eleminator button. Both systems have their pros and cons, as does everything in life. I prefer the brass button and eleminator buttons. You shoot what you feel comfortable with, try both and make up your mind as to which you like better.

burniegoeasily 09-08-2005 11:59 AM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
I use a loop and a brass nock. I have never had any problems. I use the nock to insure my loop stays in place. I shot nothing but brass nocks and every thing from fingers to releases for many years with no problem.

hawg man 09-13-2005 07:25 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
Well I took the loop off. I then move my draw back to 28 and it shoots great and I have a solid anchor again. Try both and go with what works best. I like the loop,but it messes with me getting a good anchor. Good luck.

wis_bow_huntr 09-15-2005 12:50 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
I use the stainless steel knock loop. Its great and saves wear and tear on the servicings adn pain staking sting loops. I wont go to another.

GR8atta2d 09-15-2005 01:13 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
My new Allegiance is set-up with the nock/cushion. Why?? because the pro shop said I was at the perfect draw length and looked very comfortable when anchored. I was always a loop man. I see no change, either way is good. I do like hooking up to the string though, it is much easier.
The only problem I ever had with the loop was it stretched, and without me noticing the gentle lengthening process. I ended up getting way out of position, and compensating.

Whichever way you decide, will be fine.

Paul L Mohr 09-15-2005 02:07 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
I shoot both ways, doesn't effect my accuracy either way. It does effect how you tune the bow though. You can't just switch from one to the other, leave every the the same and expect good results.

Any time you change anything on your bow or set up you should verify the tune of the bow.

Paul

hunter9022 09-15-2005 06:00 PM

RE: brass nock or not?
 
Id say take the loop off, but use a soft nock instead of the brass nocks, then put the plunger button under that to put your arrow between the two. Soft nocks are easier to tune with, and dont take as much speed away.


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