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Chuck7 07-02-2005 04:07 PM

Release Question
 
Fellow Archers,

Just lately I have been using a quick release. I tworks great. However .......there are times that it doesn't seem to release evenly and the arrow goes wildly to the right. Does this ever happen to anyone else and if it does how do you fix the problem?
Thanks Chuck

gibblet 07-02-2005 05:44 PM

RE: Release Question
 
what kind of release chuck? that hasn't happened to me yet.

Chuck7 07-02-2005 06:50 PM

RE: Release Question
 
Gibblet,
It says Tru Fire on it. I found this picture on Ebay. This is just like mine.Chuck

Rack-attack 07-02-2005 06:55 PM

RE: Release Question
 
Its not the release doing that.............Its the loose screw behind the peep:D:D

zak123 07-02-2005 07:15 PM

RE: Release Question
 
I think the problem may be torque. Do the arrows hit right only when you are tired?

Chuck7 07-03-2005 02:13 AM

RE: Release Question
 
Yes , it is after I am tired. How would that effect it?
Chuck

gibblet 07-03-2005 04:52 AM

RE: Release Question
 
the tendency, anyway, is for your body to anticipate the shot. its hard not to do without using back tension. your bow arm wants to let down, your whole upper body learns to collapse - specially when you are tired. focus on keeping your eye on the spot you were aiming at after the release occurs and leaving your bow arm alone until a second or 2 after the shot.

Chuck7 07-03-2005 05:19 AM

RE: Release Question
 
Thanks Gibblet,
When your talking back tension do you mean trying to draw your back shoulders toward each other. I had an instructor once tell me to shoot like that. My bow has very little let off and I believe the fatique might have something to do with it. When I first start shooting I have pretty good groups. However ; the longer I shoot the worse they get.
Chuck

ButchA 07-03-2005 09:01 AM

RE: Release Question
 
Chuck,

I get like that too. It's just fatigue and a little tension thrown in.... That's all.

What I have noticed (with my being lefty), is that if I accidently PUNCH the release with my index finger (major no-no [:-]), the arrow will hit the target, but be off to the right, like I caused the bow to torque somehow. If I relax and ease the release, I'll darn near Robin Hood an arrow at 20 yards! :D

Butch A.

Chuck7 07-03-2005 09:59 AM

RE: Release Question
 
Yeah ,
I agree with tha ttension thing. And the tension comes from missing badly. And the harderI try it gets worse. The other day I went and shot 9 straight shots. They were so good I put my stuff up and went home. The next time wasn't so good.
What do you mean by torching the bow?
Thanks Chuck

Elkcrazy8 07-03-2005 11:16 AM

RE: Release Question
 
Just out of curiosity, are you shooting off the string or using a string loop? I have seen some of the dual jaw releases get kind of a hang fire on a string loop. When you speak of not releasing evenly, it sounds to me like you you may be getting some. Just a tought.

ButchA 07-03-2005 11:49 AM

RE: Release Question
 

ORIGINAL: Chuck7
What do you mean by torching the bow?
Thanks Chuck
You mean torque.... ;)

Torque is something like this for example: When at full draw, squeeze the grip tightly, and try to twist your grip. While holding the bow at full draw, you'll see the bow string, peepsite,and your release are still straight, but your sight pins, the arrow on the rest, and the whole bow itself will turn in either direction. That is torque. A big big big NO-NO... [:-]

Butch A.

Chuck7 07-03-2005 11:58 AM

RE: Release Question
 
Thank you sir,
That is exactly what I am talking about. A hang fire. I shoot off the string. I don't know anything about a string loop. Are they hard to install?

Chuck

Elkcrazy8 07-03-2005 12:07 PM

RE: Release Question
 
I have seen instances where the release will hang on a string too, but it is more likely to happen with a string loop. I like to shoot single jaw releases, meaning that one side is fixed, and the other is moving. Try a friends release or an old one and see if your problem goes away. String loops are not hard to put on, or you could have a pro shop do it for you, but it will change you anchor point a little. If you release jaw is hangin on the string, it will probably happen more often on a string loop. I would suggest working on one thing at a time though. Figure out what is hanging up and go from there. Good luck

zak123 07-03-2005 12:15 PM

RE: Release Question
 
Here is a website that shows you how to tie in a string loop:

http://www.alseaintegration.com/ptc/string_loop.htm

There are some videos at the end.


You torque the bow morewhen you are tired. When you draw back, your muscles are tired, which makes you shake. This shake causes you to torque the bow.How long can you shoot before you get tired?


Chuck7 07-03-2005 12:58 PM

RE: Release Question
 
Thanks very much,
Could you recommend a release that has fewer hang ups?
Thanks Chuck

Chuck7 07-03-2005 01:02 PM

RE: Release Question
 
Zak123,
I really apppreciate you guys. I have learned a ton today. To be honest with you ....probably about 30 arrows. But you are right. I start shaking and it's very hard to keep that peep , pin and bull's eye lined up. LOL
Chuck
The bow appears to be only moving about 1/16 of an inch but that is about 10 inches off the bull's eye when it hits.

zak123 07-03-2005 01:23 PM

RE: Release Question
 
When I first started shooting I could only shoot three shots before I was tired. After a few months of shooting I can shoot for hours.

I don't think that the release is the problem. It could be, but I doubt it. You might want to try shooting a string loop. If you don't like it you cantake it off.

There is some good information for the beginner on huntersfriend.com . Once your thereyou will see a catagory titled Articles and Help to the left. Click on those links.

Elkcrazy8 07-03-2005 01:28 PM

RE: Release Question
 
Most releases are great. In all the time I have been shooting. I have seen very few problems like this one that you are having but it can happen.. So almost all will be ok. I like the Scott little goose, or the Scott little bitty goose. The reason That I use them is because they are a single jaw release, and I feel like I can get a smoother release with them. Most pro shops will let you try out the releases before buying them. I would have them look at your issue before you make any purchases though to make sure that is what is going on before spending more money. That problem sure sounds like one my friend had last year.

Chuck7 07-03-2005 01:36 PM

RE: Release Question
 
Elk,
Aren't you a little concerned that your single jaw isn't going to hold all that pressure as good as the double jaw. Also do you think it would work with my bow since it has very little let off.
Chuck

zak123 07-03-2005 01:45 PM

RE: Release Question
 
I think a single jaw has two jaws, but one side opens, while the other doesn't move. Chuck, are you thinking a single jaw only has one jaw? I'm all confused! :D

Chuck7 07-03-2005 01:49 PM

RE: Release Question
 
Yes,
I 've never seen one. Thanks fr clearing that up. I was thinking we are in big trouble pulling back 60 plus pounds with only one side being jawed. Sincwe this doesn't happen all the time it must be something tha tI can correct. I will focus though on shooting with both eyes open and less torch. and.....holding steady till the finish. that should help. Shoot...I'm going to try it right now.
See ya
Chuck

zak123 07-03-2005 02:17 PM

RE: Release Question
 
http://cabelas.com/cabelas/en/templates/links/link.jhtml?id=0004640413533a&type=product& cmCat=search&returnString=hasJS=true&_D%3A hasJS=+&QueryText=scott+release&_DARGS=%2F cabelas%2Fen%2Fcommon%2Fsearch%2Fsearch-box.jhtml.22&N=4887&Ntk=Products&Ntx=m ode+matchall&Nty=1&Ntt=scott+release&n oImage=0&returnPage=search-results1.jhtml

That is a Scott Little Goose. It has one jaw.

Elkcrazy8 07-03-2005 05:27 PM

RE: Release Question
 
Chuck,I shoot very hard off the wall at 72 lbs. I haven't had any problems yet.


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