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kenetic energy and speed
I know how to figure K E but is there a formula for figuring the speed I would drop by going a little heavier arrow.???????How much K E do I need to put arrow threw deer at 40 yards????
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RE: kenetic energy and speed
If you can shoot the bow after it is tuned well, and shoot a normal configuration of any modern compound bow/arrow setup with the bow peaking about 50# then you have enough for deer. Regardless of the Kinetic Energy. Don't you know???? Kinetic energy kills nothing. Well placed, very sharp braodheads are what does the killing.
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RE: kenetic energy and speed
And momentum = penetration.
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RE: kenetic energy and speed
jkb,
Steve Jackson has a website with a variety of archery related "calculators" on there. That might help. www.bowjackson.com Also, I believe the general rule of thumb is 1 fps lost for every 3-4 grains of arrow weight added. Hope this helps. |
RE: kenetic energy and speed
It only takes about 40 ft-lbs of kenetic energy for a pass threw on a deer, however shot placement is more important. The Gold Tip website has some calculations on it.
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RE: kenetic energy and speed
One thing to remember when figuring out the change in arrow speed vs. a change in arrow weight......The KE developed is a function of the bow more than a function of the arrow. In mathmatical terms, the KE developed is the integrated area under the draw force curve for the bow, minus the bow inefficencies (friction, noise, etc....).
Given a bow with the same draw length and weight, the KE developed for a super light arrow will be nearly the same for a super heavy arrow. The light arrow will just be a ton faster. There are some small gains for using a heavy arrow as the bow efficency tends to go up which will yield you slightly more KE, but this figure is normally < 1ft-lb. |
RE: kenetic energy and speed
Given a bow with the same draw length and weight, the KE developed for a super light arrow will be nearly the same for a super heavy arrow. The light arrow will just be a ton faster. There are some small gains for using a heavy arrow as the bow efficency tends to go up which will yield you slightly more KE, but this figure is normally < 1ft-lb. where: SE = stored energy KE = kinetic energy m = mass of arrow mv = virtual mass of the bow Clearly, KE is a function of the mass of the arrow. If we use an example of a bow storing 90 ft/lbs that throws a 350 grain arrow at 300 ft/sec which is 70 ft/lbs and we assume virtual mass to be 100 grains then that same bow will propel a 600 grain arrow at 240.5 ft/sec which is 77.1 ft/lbs. This is a 7.1 ft/lb or 10.2% increase in KE. In my opinion this is a very significant increase. In terms of momentum the change is from .47 to .64 slug ft/sec or a 37.4% increase. Certainly, super light arrows will travel alot faster but its also true there is a price to be paid. |
RE: kenetic energy and speed
One other thing, mechanicals (If ure shooting them) will need a bit more KE than fixed blades. Spitfires and the like open at around 55# or so.
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