Lab. Anyone who believes a GWP is smarter than a Lab call me. I've got some ocean front property in Arizona to talk about. Labs are ranked in the top ten for intelligence, GWP don't even break the top 40. Ever see a GWP as a guide dog, bomb dog, customs dog. etc....what breed do you see?????????????????????

Ever wonder why the Lab is the most popular breed for over 15 years? Because they are the most versatile breed, one of the most intelligent, and easiest to train of all the breeds.

DONE HERE.

Not to knock labs, but how many labs have run in any North American VERSATILE HUNTING DOG Association tests? zero. It's not even recognized as a versatile breed. How many have run in the VERSATILE HUNTING DOG Federation tests? Two.

It appears you were done before you even started. In the pointing dog world, labs are useless. If you're looking for a flushing dog, it's a completely different story.

LMAO!! Who gives a flying duck about the North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association tests? Its just a bunch of non hunting Bored house wive's that ship their dogs off for months on end to a trainer that cost's big bucks and then pay someone else to handle them just so they can brag about their dogs ribbons.
Also why are labs useless in the pointing dog world? Thanks, Pike

Same question would be how many setters do you see at them? That does not mean to say anything bad about them either. I own the Irish and some are in fact very versitile. Just because you do not see them there does not make bad at it. Infact in alot of cases far from it. There is some breeds out there that responcible owners do not disclose every thing about them. The Irish is just one of those. We as Irish owners learned alot from folks trying to breed a dog just for certain features. Unfortunately looks was what had all but distroyed the Irish. There is good breeders out there that keep them from falling under those standards of simply good looks today.

So to pick any one type of dog and choose is simply put wrong. You as a future owner should see how they work in the field and ect.. Then decide what is best for you and your needs..

That's pretty funny J. You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. The reason labs are useless as pointing dogs is because they don't point. Please don't go down the Pointing lab route... it bores me. If you really think your lab points, you haven't seen an actual pointing dog.

Phil, there is a small, but growing number of folks that use their setters as versatile dogs. This is almost exclusively a result of breeding programs using NAVHDA as the means of measuring the success of their programs and basis of their breeding decisions. However, as a breed, I wouldn't say they are considered versatile.

LMAO!! You dont have a clue about what your talking about!!
While training my lab to hunt antlers he started pointing at every grouse and wood**** we came across. (we have a million of them) Labs can and do point!! Might want to stick with your non hunting bored house wives social club. Pike

Good phototaking J. Must be a fast lense. That dog has about as much intensity as an overcooked batch of spaghetti. Give me a break.

Nice looking dog though. I'm sure you have a lot of fun with him.

LMAO!! First you said that labs dont point???
Now that that you were proven wrong you want to critique him. ( I could care less about those pretty ribbons you cherish soo much)
My cousin has 8 top of the line GSP's (all 2 years of age and older)
And my Lab pup (yes he is still a pup) locates the birds faster than any of them. But then again he was finding antlers on his own at 13 weeks age, so locating grouse and wood****s in the same type of cover is even easier.
Fast lense?? Give me a break, In the first pic he was on point for over 5 minutes by the time I went in the house, found my camera and returned to take the pic. Not bad for a pup that was rescued from an amish puppy mill. Pike

Labs don't point. Your lab is not pointing. You have no idea what a pointing dog is. It's great that you are proud of your pup, but you really have to get a grip on reality.

By the way, this is what NAVHDA is about:

"An Introduction to NAVHDA
The North American Versatile Hunting Dog Association
is a nonprofit corporation whose purpose is to foster, promote,
and improve the versatile hunting dog breeds in North America;
to conserve game by using well trained reliable hunting dogs
before and after the shot; and to aid in the prevention of
cruelty to animals by discouraging nonselective and uncontrolled
breeding, which produces unwanted and uncared for dogs.
"

No talk about ribbons anywhere. In fact ribbons don't even exist. If you could find the mere mention of a ribbon anywhere on the website, I would concede my point. If you could find any mention about housewives anywhere on the site, I will also concede my point.

Not sure why you bash an organization you know nothing about.