It's easy to tell the people who have no concept of coon hunting and what could happen. These are the people who should not even be posting in this thread.

You have about zero control over where that dog is going to end the track he is on. ZERO!!!!! This is what we call coon hunting. Now, I will explain to a couple of you guys about bird hunting. They are in your sight at all times and can be called back at will. They are not tracking a running animal. Take the time to educate yourself on coon hunting before you make a completely idiotic post as BBD has done every time he types.

BetterBirddogs sure sounds tough on his computer. He loves to shoot your dogs. A real class act. I noticed how you avoided my question though. So, I will ask again. What do you say to the guy that shoots your dog right in front of you for tresspassing. Please tell us.

AlthoughI wouldn't go as far as Sproulman did I would make things very dificult for you to live in my area that is for sure. As 2 lunger has stated you are the reason that give dog hunters a bad name. You have a complete lack of understanding from bird dogs to hounds. No matter what the hound chases he is bred to give chase. The hound doesn't give up very easily as it is the way they are. I hunt bird dogs as well as you and yes they are under my control. Though one of my dogs is strickly for flushing and locating birds as it covers more ground quicker than my pointer does. It still responds to my commands though. Unlike a hound that is bred to track and find the game it is trained on. Completely different than bird dogs. But to shoot someones dog is beyond reasoning IIMO and that would like being able to say you shoot dogs so you shouldn't be able to own one yourself. Because a dog is chasing coon, fox, coyote, cat, or bear does not give you the right to shoot it. Alot of people running some of these dogs use radio transmitters in order to keep up with them. Shock collars would not work in these cases as they are to far out ahead of them. You need to taught a lesson here from all this crap you keep saying and i to would like to know the same question. What if some one shot your prized bird dog right out in front of you? Please give us your answer..

Sorry I missed the question. I had this happen to me 5 years ago. I was running a nice trial dog on a place and he got away from and I heard a shot. I go over to the neighbors place and there he is throwing my dog in the back of his truck. I asked him what happened and he said had a severe problem with dogs chasing his cows and saw my dog running across the pasture and shot him dead. I wasn't happy about it but it was my problem. If I had my dog under control then it wouldn't have happened.


Phil you are in the NE with all the other tree hugging hippies so you really have no point to make to me. The people who give us bad names are you jackasses who turn your dogs loose and tresspass on people's land to go get them. IF YOU DON'T HAVE CONTROL OF YOUR DOG THEN DON'T TURN HIM LOOSE!


Man you guys just don't get it do you.

I am glad I live in the northeast too.. But you are making a big mistake calling me a tree hugger as that is about as retarded as you can get!! You shouldn't be allowed to own any dogs period let alone sell them. You for one would have no idea how to manage and get around in the big woods up here. You could not possibly own a dog if your statements are even part way true up in these parts. I also hope word gets out on how great of an individual you are when you try and sell more puppies. You are a waste of space when it comes to hunting and dogs. You are to blind to realize what a dird dog is to what a hound is.. For as far as I am concerned you need to be put out of bussiness.. By the way my bird dogs are under my control they are redish brown and they haven't been shot yet for a deer and do not even begin to give chase to one. They are trained well..I also have went to watch some braces when I first got my bird dogs and most of them were doing a pretty poor job. Chasing rabbits and the like..

Are you really arguing that you have ZERO!!!! control as a mitigation to your actions?

IfI shoot at a skylined animal, I have zero control over where the bullet goes if I miss or if it passes through. Thats why I don't do shoot at skylined animals. I don't sit around and say "my bullet doesn't read property signs," or "deer don't always provide a backstop." I conduct my hunting in a way that isn't a nuisance or a danger to the people around me.

Phil how can you compare your classless red setters to a real hard charging birddog. Of course your dogs don't chase deer and other off game. They probably never get further away from you then 50 yards. If I have a dog that looks like your avatar dog pointed I give them away. Good for you and your bootlickers Phil from Maine. Stay in Maine. It's where you belong.

I know I wouldn't have to worry about you shooting them that is for sure.. I am sorry you do not know the difference between a real irish setter and a red setter you would be surprized alot. Check out the bird doghall of fame sometime you just might see an irish setter in it.. Mine came from imported irish setters at a price tag you surely couldn't afford either. Also keep in mind a brother of the male I own went of overseas for alot bigger priced tag than you or I would care to dream about for a dog..If you do not think that they will run big think again. But like I stated with the comments you have been making Maine wouldn't be allowing you to own a dog period hunting dog or other wise. You have no respect for no one or anything.

Comparing hounds and bird dogs? What pumpkin truck did some of you guys fall off of?
There is absolutely no comparison!!!!!
When we hunt coon we only run straight hounds, no trash was allowed. If they ran trash , we either sold them or gave them away. Never kept a hound if it ran anything but coon. Yes this is possible cuz we did it. We hunted many times where we went on private land to get the dogs back. Sometime they ran coon many miles and you just can't keep up. A SHOCK COLLAR TO GET THEM TO COME BACK?YA REALLY DON'T THINK THAT DO YA?That will ruin your dog. We have had dogs tree on a tree that had an electric fence on it and they got shocked and never ran a coon again. The reason you can't run bearIN CERTAIN AREASis because hounds can't read and end up where they don't belong. I say if you can get in and get out, without upsetting someone, do it and learn a lesson. On the other hand I had some guys coon hunting on my land and they spooked my Reg.Quarter horses, the horses went through the barb wire fence and we had a huge loss because of it . The County paid the damages (dog damages) and then went after the hunters. Just be careful where you turn out, always check it out first!

Then with your thinking Stonewall, all hound hunting should be illegal. That's the way you think and no one here is going to change your mind.

If you so smart about coon hunting, please tell me how you or your dogs have control of where the said coon is eventually going to tree.