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martin murphy 01-22-2007 10:31 PM

shock collar????????question
 
I have a big 105 muscular black lab that is starting to run away from home what shock collar will hurt him the worst I want to be in total control

GSPsnFORDs 01-22-2007 10:38 PM

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Hmmm....can't really say I like your comment about hurting him the most. Have you tried a dog pen or at least stake him on a chain yet??

martin murphy 01-22-2007 10:44 PM

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I dont want to have him in a pen all his life but I think he would learn after getting shocked hard a few times besides If he runs away again the neighbor says he'll kill him so i would rather shock him hard and teach him quick

GSPsnFORDs 01-22-2007 11:01 PM

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I know it's not preferable to pen your pets....do you have a work schedule and/or a place that permits you to run your dog on a regular basis? This will somewhat negate the fact that your dog has been in the pen all day. If your neighbor actually intends on shooting your dog, then you need to come up with a solution other than your current one......a shock collar might work temporarily, but when your dog realizes you're not around, he'll run off again. Also, your dog will quickly realize when that collar is not on his neck (i.e. when the batteries are being charged).

martin murphy 01-22-2007 11:07 PM

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yeah I'll do it but what is a hard hitting long distance great all around shock collar he does not feel pain:D:Dthis is almost true!!!!!

Mite 01-23-2007 04:41 AM

RE: shock collar????????question
 
I think you need to rethink what you plan to do. Dogs don't think the way we do. With dogs, it's all about association. A dog wearing a ecollar for the first time and gets shocked won't know why or how.

Personally, I feel everydog should be confined somewhat to either a yard, kennel, etc. A dog should not be let loose even in rural areas unsupervised.

One solution, work out your differences with your neighbor. Another, look at underground containment systems.

tourangeaud 01-23-2007 06:18 AM

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Put it on yourself and figure it out whcih one hurts the worst. You may have 2nd thoughts then.

How about a fence,kennell or just chain him up. Take himout when you get home and let him run around under your supervision.

Doc E 01-23-2007 10:07 AM

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ORIGINAL: martin murphy

I dont want to have him in a pen all his life but I think he would learn after getting shocked hard a few times besides If he runs away again the neighbor says he'll kill him so i would rather shock him hard and teach him quick
1. If a dog is properly exercised they will do just fine in an 8' X 12' enclosure for the rest of the day.
2. You definitely don't know enough about ecollars for me to suggest that you even try to do such a thing. Ecollars are used to enforce an already known command -- and NOT to keep the dog at home.



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MTdrahthaar 01-23-2007 11:01 AM

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There is absolutely nothing wrong with keeping a dog in a kennel, as long as he has a clean house to go into, water, and gets let out and the end of the day for a run.



losthwy 01-23-2007 02:36 PM

RE: shock collar????????question
 

ORIGINAL: Doc E


ORIGINAL: martin murphy

I dont want to have him in a pen all his life but I think he would learn after getting shocked hard a few times besides If he runs away again the neighbor says he'll kill him so i would rather shock him hard and teach him quick
2. You definitely don't know enough about ecollars for me to suggest that you even try to do such a thing. Ecollars are used to enforce an already known command -- and NOT to keep the dog at home.
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Second that. The dog has to beproperly collar condition first of all, I would take it to a pro and have it done if that is the route you choose.

Phil from Maine 01-23-2007 05:09 PM

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I have to agree with what others had said here that if you do not know what you are doing stay away from the e-collar. There has been a great number of dogs ruined because they were not used right.

North Texan 01-23-2007 07:42 PM

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Shock collars are not about hurting the dog. They are about correcting negative behavior. Pain doesn't make the dog learn any faster.

An e-collar will work, but based on your comments I'd suggest contacting a professional.

Blueditch42 01-23-2007 08:07 PM

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Is this your first dog ever? If you cant keep it in a kennel for 8-12 hours a day then you might want to consider selling or giving your dog away. Just because you shock the hell out of him three or four times doesnt mean he will stay in the yard.

daleh 01-23-2007 08:32 PM

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e-collars are a training tool and only a training tool. Most Pros and weekend trainers alike don't understand how or more importantly when to use the collar.

daleh 01-23-2007 08:42 PM

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e-collar training






2789 Britt 01-30-2007 07:36 PM

RE: shock collar????????question
 
a under ground fence with a variable distance to get shocked i like one that lets it gets 10b feet from the border and once they cross that line it shocks them bad but you need to have him on a leash and let him do it a few times and yank him back

RustyD02359 01-31-2007 11:56 AM

RE: shock collar????????question
 
Sometime dogs develpop bad behaviors out of boredom. Digging, chewing, running away, etc... Could it be it is getting less attention or less hunting/run time with you?


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