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I have another question about my GSP that was bread with a Wiemaraner...(earlier post)

I was wondering when you can start to tell that your dog is pregnant, what signs to look forand at how far alongwill you start to notice major changes.

Kimber is my Female GSP and she first got stuck together with a Wiemaraner about 46 days ago, on Sept. 21, 2006. She was stuck together with the male Wiemaraneratleast three times that we observed. I was told they have the pups about 63-65 days later. The olny thing I notice is that she has gained a little weight and her nips are a little bigger. Is this a good sign that she is going to have pups?

Thanks, T.R.

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28 days for Ultrasound --- 49 days for xrays.



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Is there any other visible signs that you can see wihtout going to the vet? I am just wondering because I would really like to know what is going on with her and whether or not I should expect puppies or not.

Thanks,

T.R. McKinney

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Quote from you other post: shegot in my 3 year old Weimaraner's pin and before I knew it they were locked together


Quote from this post: She was stuck together with the male Wiemaraneratleast three times that we observed.

Im just trying to figure out Why you intentionally breed her to your Weimaraner?? seams to me you could have found a stud and made some good money on the pups.

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It was mistake at first then after we saw them together the first time we thought oh well why not.

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The more approriate thought would have been "WHY"?



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Well obviously if you read my other post, then you would see that there are people out there who arelooking for that type of cross. So far if she has the pups, I know five people who already asked to buy one from me. Besides I am not in it for the money. Being in college, I don't really have the luxury of alot of time on my hands, it is a little bit of an inconvenience for me. Thanks for your concern though.

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From the wording of this post, I have decided that you must either be going for a Business Management degree or Law.



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i dont see why everyone is making a big deal about what he said... why wouldnt that cross be good? they are both great hunting dogs and mixed breeds are usually the healthier dogs and have a longer lifespan anyways..

plus the puppies should be pretty cool looking..

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I agree with JimmyMO32, why are you all getting so bent out of shape? It is not your dog nor is he trying to sell you guys any of these pups if they are born. Personally I like both dogs and if I had the extra cash and time for another pup right now I would love to have on of them. Now the real question is, if these pups do come, do you crop their tails or leave them?;) Trmckinn, sorry, I can't help you on this one, I have never had a pregnant dog before. But, if Sadie turns out to be a good hunted she may in a few years:D
Brandon

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yeah i would love to have one too bhensely.. i just got a new gsp/lab mix a few weeks ago.. i like german shorthairs and i think any mix with another type of hunting dog would make a great companion an a great hunter.. hopefully mine turns out to be both ;)

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Oh you bet, I have never had a GSP and am now on my 2nd Weimaraner, both very good dogs but the Weim's aree also very good dogs to keep in the house also. I'm not big into outside only dogs so there is one more reason I would love one of those dogs. Good luck with your new pup! I'm sure he will turn out to be a fine dog.
Brandon

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Isn't it amazing how quick the accidental breedings can happen? That's why we are so VERY careful any time we have a girl in season. I swear a dog would dig through concrete to get to a girl in season; and the girl would help him!!

If the nipples are changing, that's a pretty good sign she's pregnant. We look for a base to start forming at the nipple and the nipples to start getting bigger. When we see that, we get an ultrasound just to be sure because we want to change the diet and amount of food the last month or so. Let me say, though, that change can happen with a false pregnancy too; we have one girl that was bred and it didn't take, but she even had milk come in just before what would have been her due date.

At about 1-1/2 weeks before the due date, we get an x-ray for a puppy count (ultrasound is not reliable for a count; even the x-raycan be off). That is important so that we know when we are done with puppies or if there is a problem with the welping.

You mentioned you were pretty busy with school. Can you make arrangements to get away and be with the girl when she starts welping? Pretty important if something goes wrong during welping. You might also consider buying a book on breeding to help recognise any developing problems during welping or puppy rearing. Just like in humans, there's lots that can go wrong.

My wife and I have been breeding dogs for about 10 years now (not a long time) and we still are a bundle of nerves with every litter. But it's a real kick when the litter is grown up and going to their new homes. Good luck and I hope you have a healthy litter and mom with no problems.

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Thanks for the back up guys, I think Doc just likes to get under everyones skin. He sounds like a grumpy old man everytime he replies to a post. Anyways I think I am going to crop their tails, I think it will look alot better.

T.R.

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I'm getting on my flame-proof suit.

My response was to help with something that was already done. My response was to help out in the best interest of thesoon-to-be puppiesand the mom. I do not in any way condone breeding without any knowledge of genetics, health issues, welping, etc., etc. If someone were to ask me about an accidental tie, I would say keep them apart after that and hope the girl doesn't get pregnant; I know of a couple breeders that have actually done an abortion after an accidental breeding.

I certainly do understand why people want to breed, but the proper way to get into it is to get an established breeder to mentor you. That's what we did and we have done that for a couple new people ourselves. That breeder can help you understand that there is a lot more to breeding than just throwing a couple good looking dogs together and hoping for the best. I really would encourage you to get a book or 2 (and a video or 2) on welping so you at least have an idea on what is involved and can recognise a developing problem, should one occur. Even better would be some help from an established breeder. As I said before, there are many, many things that can go wrong.

Finally, like I said before, I really do wish the best for you with this litter. I just ask that you consider not breeding again until you have an established breeder helping you that can guide you in the entire process.

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Her do date is around thanksgiving so I will be out of school. Purdue University starts break the tuesday before, so I will be with her 24/7.

T.R.

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BruceH- No need for the flame suit, I didn't see anything wrong with your postt. You did give him some good advice and didn't sit and rag on him for letting this happen. Like you said, it happens fast and what's done is done. Now I do have a question, what does the term welping mean? I have never bred dogs or had one get pregnant so I am not sure of all the terms such as this. Thanks.

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Glad you didn't take offense to my post. I posted a very similar answer on another hunting site and they ripped me a new one. Sometimes I get a little opinionated about breeding because I've seen some of the results when things went wrong, including with breeders a lot more experienced than me.

Anyway, welping is the term used for the birthing process.

trmckinn: Glad you are off and able to be around when she is due. Something you can do to give yourself a little advance notice is to start taking her temperature twice a day about 12 hours apart about a week before her due date. Write down the temperature each time so you can see what is mostly normal for her. When you see a temperature drop of about 2 degrees, you are within 24 hours of labor. It is possible to miss the drop, but we have not missed it more than 2 or 3 times over the years. Sorry to keep harping, but get a good book and a video on breeding. It will help you to know what's happening and will tell you what you need to buy to prepare.

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I have assisted with a dog in labor. So I have a little bit of an idea about what I need to do. The vet that I take my dog to said she has a video that I can get so I probably will take your advise on that. Also I think I know, but how do you take their temp? Just wondering if there was an easier way to do it than the way my vet does.

Thanks, T.R.

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We use a digital thermometer; the butt is the way we do it. We use the plastic sleeves on the thermometer and wash and disinfect between temps. Generally, when she is getting very close (within maybe 12 hours or less) she will start nesting (digging and and routing around) and panting.

That's great that you have assisted; that will help a lot. Definately get the video and get a book too. Oh, and if you take her outside for a break between puppies, always have her on a lead and carry a flashlight and towel. We have had 2 or 3 puppies born outside over the years.

After the puppies are born, we feed the mom a couple slices of cheese to keep the calcium levels up after a breeder friend lost her mom to eclampsia when the puppies were just 1-1/2 weeks old.

If theres anything you're not clear on after watching the video and reading, just ask. I'll help as best as I can.

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If telling it like it is (the TRUTH) gets under someones skin -- so be it and too bad for them.



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All B.S. aside, my GSP, Kimber is about 1 week away from when she is supposed to have pups and I still don't see very many signs that tells meshe is pregnant. So I don't know but it is very doubtful that she will have pups. Oh well.

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If she has shown some signs but is not showing other signs, I would suggest getting her ultrasounded or x-rayed. That way you know for sure and can get a count. And you also know to bring her into the vet if she goes too far past her due date. For all anyone knows, she may just have one or two. Have you felt any movement? You should be able to feel movement once in a while, but the pups will quiet down a bit as you get a day or two away from welping.

Let me tell what happened last year to one of our girls we bred. Brought her in for an ultrasound 1/2 way through pregnancy and saw 2 pups. Took her into the vet about 1-1/2 weeks before due date for an x-ray, still saw two but vet commented they looked a little small. Due date came and went and about 5 days after her due date, we brought her in for another ultrasound. No heartbeats. Did a c-section and both pups were dead and appeared to have been dead for at least a week. Thank God we got mom in when we did or the dead pups could have killed the mom. So after stud fee, vet costs, c-section, etc., no pups. No one ever said breeding was easy, cheap or a sure thing.

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Cool -- God works in mysterious and wonderousways.[:o]



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