Electronic dog fences?
 

Anybody have em? Do they work? I want my dog to roam the yard free, but I dont want a fence, and I hate pens and chains. And I want to keep them all off the road. [:o]How do they work?

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Dairy King, I asked this question once and got good reply's on the Sporting Dogs forum. Try posting it there.

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I don't have one myself but several other folks in my neighborhood decided to put them up. They seem to work well enough as I have yet to see one of the dogs running loose in the neighborhood. Do you mind having those little flags all over your yard though?

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Good idea cutter. Thanks. I never thought of that.

PA. Doesnt really matter to me. They don't have to stay up long, do they?

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I have one for my black lab. It's currently inoperable due to the utility company cutting the underground wire in the middle of the yard somewhere.

Anyhow... They are great!!!!!!! It takes a little while to teach the dog where his boundries are, but once they are trained, they DO NOT cross the line.

Basically what you do is
-Lay wire
-Set up flags at the edge of the radio feild
-[on leash] Train dog w/ shock collar (Rubber dummy prongs to prevent shock) to run back in yard once he hears the warning beeps. Offer LOTS of praise.
-[on leash] Put regular prongs on collar. Take dog to edge of flags. Collar will start beeping. Let dog get shocked. Offer LOTS of praise.
-[on leash] Work dog around paremiter until he reailizes that beep = = shock. LOTS of praise for going back into the "safe zone". Remove half of the flags (every other one) after one week of training in this stage. Remove half of the ones left a week after, then remove all flags in 3rd week. This can coincide with the next step as well.
-[off leash] Let dog wonder by himself, if he gets near field, he will get shocked. Should run back into yard.

Please note that this takes a couple weeks to complete. but once finished, you really shouldn't need to turn on the fence unless your pup needs a constant reminder.

If you want more technical instructions, let me know.

BTW, Nitro's (my lab) fence hasn't worked for over 6 months and he hasn't even thought of crossing that parimeter. Much cheaper solution than a chainlink fence. Try $300 for 1+ acres compared to $5000 1/4 acre of chainlink.

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BTW, I'm not sure why this was moved to the Sporting Dog section of the site. As far as I know, this is a general topic that has nothing to do with a sporting dog. IMO, it should be put back on the Offseason forum.

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PA21: I asked Justin to do it for me. I figured it would get more response here since this is the dog section.

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PAHUNTER21

I have 2 dogs, a Welse Corgi and an Austrailian Shepherd. the Corgi is about 5 years old, the Aussie going on 1 1/2.

We have 5 acres, mostly wooded, everyone around here has the same. They both bark at anything/anyone strange, and we've lived here for about 4 months. The Aussie has always had the herding instincts to nip and herd and she's a high strung dog.

Anyway, yesterday I talked with my neighbor who walks every morning at 7 am. The past 3 mornings that Aussie took to the road after him, and attempted to slip in from the rear and bite him. He said he's worked postal routes and knows a dog trying to bite - this dog tried to. She's never shown THAT much agressiong towards anyone. Last night I tied her up - didn't release her until after the guys morning walk.

During the day - no problems because my kids are around the house, my wife etc etc. They stay close. Late nights and mornings, we're thinking she gets bored and has figured out that chasing people on the road is a fun thing to do [:@]Kendall said he fired a shot over her head - and would have killed her if he hadn't known me and was giving her a last chance. I agreed with him - I will NOT have a biting dog.

So anyway - would a fence like this keep her off the road ? Say I fenced it so theres a barrier of 50 yards off the road where she can approach to there and no further ? Would she learn to never go through that barrier ? Are the shocks that strong as to keep them from doing that ?

She is very intelligent, and remembers commands. She's very teachable. I'm trying to find ways to keep from me having to kill her - which I will do if she ever bites

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You bet it would. I've got a 7 month old Vizsla who is as high strung as they come and I have people walking dogs 5' off of the perimeter and he won't cross. I trained him on it from 12 weeks old though. It might take you a little longer to establish the boundaries with an older dog. I highly recommend the Canine Fence company. A lifetime of batteries still won't equal; what a chainlink fence woulds have cosat me.

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We have a fence from Innotek (bought from Cabelas).

Let me just give you a visual of how strong the shock is.... (Note: at this time it was only set on 1/2 power)

When I was testing where the parimeter of the fence was, I was holding the collar with two hands and forgot to change the prongs to the rubber ones. Somehow I had made contact with each prong when I crossed the parimeter. It felt like two 300lb guys standing on each side of me and punching me in the shoulders at the same time. It hit me hard, really hard.

Now, Let me just tell you one thing. At the beginning, the dog got through the barrier once, to no fault of his own. It was poor placement of the wire on my part.

If you get one, you'll see how well the shock correction works for your dog (They probably won't get corrected (shocked) more than 5 times before they learn). On full power it should work for any size dog as long as the prongs are making contact with the dogs neck.

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WARNING: Some meathead dogs just won't train. You will know if it's going to work for them well before it's time to let them off the leash to roam by themselves.

Many times, failed training has to do with the trainer and not the dog. Most units come with an instructional video, which I recommend watching and following to a 'T'.

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Have you ever been shocked by an electric fence, like the kind they put up to keep cows in, PA? Just curious if it was anything like that.

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Very similar. Just as strong in my opinion.

Imagine taking both hands and grabbing ahold of the fence and waiting for the pulse. YOWSA! If I was wearing the collar, I wouldn't attempt crossing the fence, that's for sure. LOL!

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What I have:

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LOL...I've actually done that. I thought it was off, and I was going to unwire it so we could move cattle. OUCH!

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If you have a headstrong dog, petsafe makes an "invisible fence" that don't require burrying a wire.With hard headed dogs, they'll figure out that once they jump the wire, the shocking will stop. With this one, if they go outside the boundary, it keeps shocking until they get back into the safe zone. The unit is adjustable for a certain radius and comes with flags. Once you've set it, the collar will beep when it gets to within 5ft of the boundary. If they go past that, the shock comes into play. I have a buddy that has one and his Jack Russel Terrier has NEVER even thought of going close to the boundary. might be something to look into.

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Thanks, T/C. I was wondering that also.

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T/C. My ex had one of those for her Rottweiler.

I remember one time when she was just introduced to the fence, she ran over to the neighbor who grabbed hold of her collar.... He couldn't figure out why the dog kept yelping. Here he was preventing the dog from getting back into her safe zone.

Those units work well, but don't they only have a 50ft (yd?) radius field?

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I'm also interested in one of these fences for my dog (7 month old Black Lab). We're (my fiance and I) are gone each day from
about 7:30-5 every day at work. Right now he's blocked into a corner of the basement (where he can have free reign if he ever stops chewing on everything
and yes, I give him lots of toys) but I'd like him to be able to be outside at his leisure. My thoughts are to put in an
invisible fence (I have an acre and intend to fence in all but about the front 20' that runs along the road) and then put in a
dog door (one with the lock de-activated by a magnet on their collar) in the back of my garage. What I'm wondering is, how do the
do-it-yourself kits compare to the professionally installed kits? Are they hard to do? Do they seem to have the same power?
Thanks for your help!

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PA, theone my buddy has is adjustable out to 90ft from the main unit. So if you put that unit in a centrallocation, it'll cover a 180ft radius. www.petsafe.net

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i would totally agree with T/C. this was a few years ago buti have seen dogs charge the underground wire get shocked while crossing and keep on going. i can't remember the brand name of the under ground fence. but once the dog crossed he was free to go. the other bad part was that the dog had to get shocked again to return to his area. this guy even had his driveway cut for the wire.

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I've never used one of these type "fences" but my take
has always been that a fence serves to purposes, equally
important. Keep dogs in, keep other dogs or animals out.
The dog not wearing a collar can walk right in any time.
Strays, bigger more aggressive or male getting to a female
all can have bad effects. If this has been considered already
sorry, I just glanced thru the posts.

PKnTX

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I have the wireless fence by Petsafe: http://petsafe.net/pet_containment/pet_fencing.php?L=1&PROD_CODE=PIF-300 Works awesome. He has a 90' radius from where the unit is located. Unless the battery is dead in his collar he never tries to pass out of the zone. A very worthwhile investment.

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I got two Weims and they are a handfull. I have an actual fence that I keep them in. They figured out how to unlatch the fence so I locked it. They figured out how to open the divider betweent the gates and push open the locked gate, so I DOUBLE locked it. Then they dug a hole underneath it. So I buried chicken wire, and wired it to the fence. They broke through the chicken wire so I heated and bent rebar and drove it about 3 feet into the ground and attached it to the fence, but they kept digging. So I got an electric fence to put around the actual steel fence to prevent problems. It works, sort of. If I forget to turn it on, they get out, if I dont then they stay in. BUT.........they will run through the electric fence if the gate is open. I guess the prize is worth the punishment. I dont know, I wouldnt trust it in an open yard, at least not for my dogs. But the neighbor has it too and she has had 4 dogs on it and they never get out. (BTW....I put the 9volt stubborn dog collars on my dogs, and they still run through)