Dog hunting outlaws
01-07-2009, 11:56 AM
#151
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: NC
Posts: 167
RE: Dog hunting outlaws
IN halifax NC you just cant shoot across the road or from the right-of-way. In greensville Va you only have to be 10ft from the ditch and not across a road and Southampton VA has no distance just no shooting from road or across one...
01-07-2009, 12:38 PM
#152
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Posts: 466
RE: Dog hunting outlaws
crumbe call the VDGIF hot line. Ask them are the items listed in the hunting rules digest inclusive of all rules statewide. They will say no. They will say it's a guide only meant to assist in establishing what the hunter can and can't do in a particular county. They also will tell you that it is up to each individual county to regulate distances and other local ordinances. VDGIF does not make or set these rules. So what's in your rule book or online at VDGIF isn't every rule for every county.
Here's their disclaimer page 3
Then call Isle of Wight and ask the sheriff about distances from a road. The county can choose whether to notify VDGIF of laws to add in the hunting guide. If they don't call it doesn't get put in the guide. Bottom line is just because it's not in the little book we all have or you can read it on the VDGIF web site doesn't mean it's not somewhere else. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse in court.
Here's their disclaimer page 3
This pamphlet is for general information. Specific laws are found in the
Code of Virginia or the Game Department Regulation Manual. For
answers to specific questions about hunting or trapping, contact the
Department of Game and Inland Fisheries office nearest you.
Code of Virginia or the Game Department Regulation Manual. For
answers to specific questions about hunting or trapping, contact the
Department of Game and Inland Fisheries office nearest you.
01-07-2009, 12:49 PM
#153
Fork Horn
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 217
RE: Dog hunting outlaws
ORIGINAL: Bigg~BirddVA
crumbe call the VDGIF hot line. Ask them are the items listed in the hunting rules digest inclusive of all rules statewide. They will say no. They will say it's a guide only meant to assist in establishing what the hunter can and can't do in a particular county. They also will tell you that it is up to each individual county to regulate distances and other local ordances. VDGIF does not make or set these rules. So what's in your rile book or online at VDGIF isn't every rule for every county.
Here's their disclaimer page 3
Then call Isle of Wight and ask the sheriff about distances from a road. The county can choose whether to notify VDGIF of laws to add in the hunting guide. If they don't call it doesn't get put in the guide. Bottom line is just because it's not in the little book we all have or you can read it on the VDGIF web site doesn't mean it's not somewhere else. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse in court.
crumbe call the VDGIF hot line. Ask them are the items listed in the hunting rules digest inclusive of all rules statewide. They will say no. They will say it's a guide only meant to assist in establishing what the hunter can and can't do in a particular county. They also will tell you that it is up to each individual county to regulate distances and other local ordances. VDGIF does not make or set these rules. So what's in your rile book or online at VDGIF isn't every rule for every county.
Here's their disclaimer page 3
This pamphlet is for general information. Specific laws are found in the
Code of Virginia or the Game Department Regulation Manual. For
answers to specific questions about hunting or trapping, contact the
Department of Game and Inland Fisheries office nearest you.
Code of Virginia or the Game Department Regulation Manual. For
answers to specific questions about hunting or trapping, contact the
Department of Game and Inland Fisheries office nearest you.
Rick the bottom line is your the number one most active anti-hound hunter on these websites and it has come apparent that your main goal is to regulate or ban hound hunting. I as a citizen and Sportsman of Virginia and a Hunting Dog owner feel threaten by you and your actions. It's not if your going to do a crime but when. Your actions are those of a domestic terrorist! You need to lay down the Peta and HSUS handbooks before someone gets hurt and a real crime is committed.
01-07-2009, 01:37 PM
#154
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Posts: 466
RE: Dog hunting outlaws
ORIGINAL: Hokieman
Rick the bottom line is your the number one most active anti-hound hunter on these websites and it has come apparent that your main goal is to regulate or ban hound hunting. I as a citizen and Sportsman of Virginia and a Hunting Dog owner feel threaten by you and your actions. It's not if your going to do a crime but when. Your actions are those of a domestic terrorist! You need to lay down the Peta and HSUS handbooks before someone gets hurt and a real crime is committed.
ORIGINAL: Bigg~BirddVA
crumbe call the VDGIF hot line. Ask them are the items listed in the hunting rules digest inclusive of all rules statewide. They will say no. They will say it's a guide only meant to assist in establishing what the hunter can and can't do in a particular county. They also will tell you that it is up to each individual county to regulate distances and other local ordances. VDGIF does not make or set these rules. So what's in your rile book or online at VDGIF isn't every rule for every county.
Here's their disclaimer page 3
Then call Isle of Wight and ask the sheriff about distances from a road. The county can choose whether to notify VDGIF of laws to add in the hunting guide. If they don't call it doesn't get put in the guide. Bottom line is just because it's not in the little book we all have or you can read it on the VDGIF web site doesn't mean it's not somewhere else. Ignorance of the law is not an excuse in court.
crumbe call the VDGIF hot line. Ask them are the items listed in the hunting rules digest inclusive of all rules statewide. They will say no. They will say it's a guide only meant to assist in establishing what the hunter can and can't do in a particular county. They also will tell you that it is up to each individual county to regulate distances and other local ordances. VDGIF does not make or set these rules. So what's in your rile book or online at VDGIF isn't every rule for every county.
Here's their disclaimer page 3
This pamphlet is for general information. Specific laws are found in the
Code of Virginia or the Game Department Regulation Manual. For
answers to specific questions about hunting or trapping, contact the
Department of Game and Inland Fisheries office nearest you.
Code of Virginia or the Game Department Regulation Manual. For
answers to specific questions about hunting or trapping, contact the
Department of Game and Inland Fisheries office nearest you.
Rick the bottom line is your the number one most active anti-hound hunter on these websites and it has come apparent that your main goal is to regulate or ban hound hunting. I as a citizen and Sportsman of Virginia and a Hunting Dog owner feel threaten by you and your actions. It's not if your going to do a crime but when. Your actions are those of a domestic terrorist! You need to lay down the Peta and HSUS handbooks before someone gets hurt and a real crime is committed.
The I feel threatened line is good but I don't think anyone is buying it.
01-07-2009, 02:17 PM
#155
Spike
Join Date: Sep 2008
Posts: 39
RE: Dog hunting outlaws
i would feel threatened too hokie,now we know some nut-job,whako is out there video tappingus hunting,maybe trying to get plate numbers so he can pass on to his friends or himself to find out where we live and come steal,shoot,or poision our hounds.
seems that way to me,do you live or hunt anywhere near this club?why with all the clubs in virginia you pick that one to video,mmmmmmmmmmm.what i read on another forum you dont.
wait a minute you stated
but you posted this crap on 1/5/09 10:28:24 am...........so you posted BEFORE you even knew the law.
i think we all know what kind of person were dealing with here.
bigbird wrote:I'm not going after anyone.
wait a minute you stated
I didn't call IOW sheriff until last night to ask the law
i think we all know what kind of person were dealing with here.
01-07-2009, 02:32 PM
#156
Boone & Crockett
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Southwest Ohio
Posts: 10,277
RE: Dog hunting outlaws
These threads are always a laugh riot. The more some of these anti-doggers talk the more apparent it becomes that they are wrapped just a little too tight.
Would be nice to see folks putting such video surveillance and investigative skills into addressing unlawful conduct by the non-hound deer hunters who consitute the vast majority of law breakers, vandals, slob hunters, and overall miscreants. What an exquisite blend of hypocracy and ignorance.
Would be nice to see folks putting such video surveillance and investigative skills into addressing unlawful conduct by the non-hound deer hunters who consitute the vast majority of law breakers, vandals, slob hunters, and overall miscreants. What an exquisite blend of hypocracy and ignorance.
01-07-2009, 02:33 PM
#157
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Posts: 466
RE: Dog hunting outlaws
ORIGINAL: vahoundsman
i would feel threatened too hokie,now we know some nut-job,whako is out there video tappingus hunting,maybe trying to get plate numbers so he can pass on to his friends or himself to find out where we live and come steal,shoot,or poision our hounds.
seems that way to me,do you live or hunt anywhere near this club?why with all the clubs in virginia you pick that one to video,mmmmmmmmmmm.what i read on another forum you dont.
i would feel threatened too hokie,now we know some nut-job,whako is out there video tappingus hunting,maybe trying to get plate numbers so he can pass on to his friends or himself to find out where we live and come steal,shoot,or poision our hounds.
bigbird wrote:I'm not going after anyone.
Why do all the dog hunters defend actions like what was shown? Come on guys you have to set some limits on right and wrong too. Denail isn't going to cut it forever.
01-07-2009, 02:43 PM
#158
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location:
Posts: 8
RE: Dog hunting outlaws
No he doesnt hunt near that club if he did we would have heard about him a long time ago with the way he acts.
Bigbird if you were not infamous before you are now, your real name is now known to many many hound hunters and is spreading every day. This is not a threat Im just telling you if this was the result you were looking for you got it. I think you are out to get hound hunters and will go to just about any means to get your way...including making false accusations on stupid videos to post around the world and put your personal biased point of view out to get anyone out there to feel for you.
the truth is the actual people who live on that road have no problem with us being there. The only people that would ever need to drive down that road actually live on that road. Anyone else coming down that road is either lost or looking to cause trouble.
You post your video and say "see see look what the bad guys are doing" when in reality if it were a problem in that area for dog hunters to hunt there someone would already have complained.
There may be problems in other areas...but you came to the wrong one. You also crossed the line with putting that child on there. You insinuate that there is a law being broken when you actually have no proof. You put all your what if's and your BS "tell me they wouldnt shoot at a big buck". You dont know. Your "Is that a road he is shooting across"....what shot??? Thats the point...your shock tactics in my opionion are making you look really desperate...and a desperate man will do just about anything.
If that big buck would have come you dont know what would have happened.........would you have shot at a big buck coming across the road?? If I say I wouldnt you call me a liar...If you say no.....you are telling the truth?? What makes you so much better.
And the way I see it...your tactics are exactly what PETA and HSUS use everyday its undeniable, shock, lies, profiling and biased personal opinions not based on the whole truth.....so when you deny you are them....maybe you are not I actually dont believe you are, I do believe you are a hunter....but you dang sure act allot like them that's for sure.
What makes you think that you need to come into someone's backyard and do some thing like this. What was done to you to make you so hateful. Or is just that your not getting your way so you think you need to scream a little louder.
BTW....the boys parents would still like to talk with you.
And in reference to your above post...I guess you just had a video camera turned on handy while you were headed to meet someone huh....tell that to someone who actually believes it.
Bigbird if you were not infamous before you are now, your real name is now known to many many hound hunters and is spreading every day. This is not a threat Im just telling you if this was the result you were looking for you got it. I think you are out to get hound hunters and will go to just about any means to get your way...including making false accusations on stupid videos to post around the world and put your personal biased point of view out to get anyone out there to feel for you.
the truth is the actual people who live on that road have no problem with us being there. The only people that would ever need to drive down that road actually live on that road. Anyone else coming down that road is either lost or looking to cause trouble.
You post your video and say "see see look what the bad guys are doing" when in reality if it were a problem in that area for dog hunters to hunt there someone would already have complained.
There may be problems in other areas...but you came to the wrong one. You also crossed the line with putting that child on there. You insinuate that there is a law being broken when you actually have no proof. You put all your what if's and your BS "tell me they wouldnt shoot at a big buck". You dont know. Your "Is that a road he is shooting across"....what shot??? Thats the point...your shock tactics in my opionion are making you look really desperate...and a desperate man will do just about anything.
If that big buck would have come you dont know what would have happened.........would you have shot at a big buck coming across the road?? If I say I wouldnt you call me a liar...If you say no.....you are telling the truth?? What makes you so much better.
And the way I see it...your tactics are exactly what PETA and HSUS use everyday its undeniable, shock, lies, profiling and biased personal opinions not based on the whole truth.....so when you deny you are them....maybe you are not I actually dont believe you are, I do believe you are a hunter....but you dang sure act allot like them that's for sure.
What makes you think that you need to come into someone's backyard and do some thing like this. What was done to you to make you so hateful. Or is just that your not getting your way so you think you need to scream a little louder.
BTW....the boys parents would still like to talk with you.
And in reference to your above post...I guess you just had a video camera turned on handy while you were headed to meet someone huh....tell that to someone who actually believes it.
01-07-2009, 02:50 PM
#159
Fork Horn
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location:
Posts: 466
RE: Dog hunting outlaws
Crumbe no matter what I said or had it wouldn't be good enough for you or any of the others. Besides is everyone was doing what they were supposed to all the video in the world would come up with nothing. We'll leave it at that.
If they want to talk to me have 'em join the forum and pm me. Since you want to play middleman you can do that if you wish.
If they want to talk to me have 'em join the forum and pm me. Since you want to play middleman you can do that if you wish.
