yet another blow for the antis
 

http://www.newsleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/..../804090303/1006
the smarts one in the pole were the ones who want some of the regulations changed. Hopefully a few changes will be made, just dont know if there are enough to do so.

RE: yet another blow for the antis
 

Looks like the story has been taken down. It's no longer available.

Is that the Staunton News Leader? I used to live there. Graduated from Lee.

RE: yet another blow for the antis
 

Try this
http://www.newsleader.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080409/SPORTS/804090303/1006
and both sides have tried to put a spin onthe survey, but the numbers are there judge them yourself.

RE: yet another blow for the antis
 

sorry I posted it like that. The way I did it wasinappropriate and is only going to start more arguments on the subject (I think we have had enough) so sorry all.

RE: yet another blow for the antis
 

Yes the numbers do speak. 32% for no change and 67% want more regulation or it totally eliminated. The spin is how one looks at it. The numbers say more are against it than for it - 35% say total elimination. The rest want it changed. Too bad those changes were not defined. The bottom line is a lot more people want something done to fix the obvious problems dog hunting presents than want it left alone.

RE: yet another blow for the antis
 

Question - How many of the ones who responded to the survey were from Virginia?

RE: yet another blow for the antis
 

Hokie don't start, you can tryto discredit the survey for what reason? It was just a few questions that he put inhis articleand itwas in a VA publication. I'm sure you would see a large variance if you separated justwhat part of VA the respondents were from or what type of game being hunted with hounds.

If it's that important, let me ask you how many members of the VHDA aren't VA residents? Or, since membership is free, how many houndsman have signed up their wifes, kids,.....without their knowledge? And how many guys signed on before they knew the VHDA's was anti hunting because of it's boards decision to oppose SH?

I still can't figure that one out, because you can see Sunday hunts listed on Speeddog all the time for VA and NC. I guess it's OK for houndsmen to hunt on Sunday, they just don't want anyone else to.

RE: yet another blow for the antis
 

In all seriousness that survey is a joke, 150 people is long way from a "representative sample". And out of that, 64% were for dog hunting (in some form). Don't believe the hype, stricter regs in the future? Probably. Banning of dog hunting in VA? Not likely, no matter what some bogus survey says, hell he didn't even mention the other 50 people that were for hound hunting and just wanted the regs changed.

49 + 54 = 103

153 - 103 = 50 more that were for dog hunting but were interested in new regs.

Spin that however you want. Put it to a statewide vote and see what happens with those numbers. Am I the only one that actually read the numbers because I noticed noone else mentioned it. I could ask 150 people I work with and I bet my numbers would be much different, BS survey is all I'm saying.

RE: yet another blow for the antis
 

New just because you don't like the numbers you can't say the survey was BS. If you think the results from a statewide vote would be better, your dreaming. If you have any common sense, you never want any hunting issues put up for a voted by the general public. The numbers in that survey reflect exactly what you said " stricter regs in the future? Probably"

RE: yet another blow for the antis
 

new you do have a point. hell, I could go around my county and ask 150 people (most who dont even hunt and could get 140 of em to say hunting is fine just the way it is:)We all know that most do not want hound hunting done away with, and some of the few that do wouldnt if a few rules are changed. i talked with the local gm in my area a couple of weeks ago and was telling hime of the arguing on some of these sites and like he told me "why waste your energy arguing over it, its not going anywhere" He has a good point we know its not so why fall into some of these guys traps and argue with them?:eek: